Ilsemannite
A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered - questionable
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About Ilsemannite
Johann C. Ilsemann
Formula:
Mo3O8 · nH2O
Colour:
Black, blue-black, or blue; turns blue on exposure
Crystal System:
Amorphous
Name:
After Johann Christoph Ilsemann (1727-1822), a former Mining Commissioner at Clausthal, Harz, who published an early study of molybdenite (1787).
Type Locality:
Note that there are numerous different and very complex heterovalent molybdenum oxide molecules forming amorphous blue substances. Most likely the "ilsemannites" at different localities, formed under different conditions, are not the same compound and may even be mixtures of several different compounds. Consequently "ilsemannite" does not really deserve mineral species status and may eventually turn out to be several different species when technology advances to when we can better characterize very thin amorphous films.
Ilsemannite was once thought to be responsible for the blue colour of "blue waters" of the Idaho Springs area, known to Indians, but it was later shown that rather more complex, up-to-200-metal-atoms compounds may be the cause.
See also the visually similar mourite.
Ilsemannite was once thought to be responsible for the blue colour of "blue waters" of the Idaho Springs area, known to Indians, but it was later shown that rather more complex, up-to-200-metal-atoms compounds may be the cause.
See also the visually similar mourite.
Unique Identifiers
Mindat ID:
2015
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:2015:8
GUID
(UUID V4):
(UUID V4):
1f9e7c84-d98e-4117-b82c-01b6973238c6
IMA Classification of Ilsemannite
Approved, 'Grandfathered' (first described prior to 1959), Questionable
IMA Formula:
Mo3O8 · nH2O (?)
First published:
1871
Classification of Ilsemannite
4.FJ.15
4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
F : Hydroxides (without V or U)
J : Hydroxides with H2O +- (OH); corner-sharing octahedra
4 : OXIDES (Hydroxides, V[5,6] vanadates, arsenites, antimonites, bismuthites, sulfites, selenites, tellurites, iodates)
F : Hydroxides (without V or U)
J : Hydroxides with H2O +- (OH); corner-sharing octahedra
4.6.3.1
4 : SIMPLE OXIDES
6 : Miscellaneous
4 : SIMPLE OXIDES
6 : Miscellaneous
7.15.4
7 : Oxides and Hydroxides
15 : Oxides of Mo and W
7 : Oxides and Hydroxides
15 : Oxides of Mo and W
Mineral Symbols
As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.
| Symbol | Source | Reference |
|---|---|---|
| Ils | IMA–CNMNC | Warr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43 |
Physical Properties of Ilsemannite
Transparency:
Translucent
Colour:
Black, blue-black, or blue; turns blue on exposure
Streak:
pale blue
Chemistry of Ilsemannite
Mindat Formula:
Mo3O8 · nH2O
Elements listed:
Crystallography of Ilsemannite
Crystal System:
Amorphous
Morphology:
Earthy masses or crusts; as a stain or disseminated pigment.
Comment:
Amorphous. Point Group: n.d. Space Group: n.d. Z = n.d.
Geological Environment
Paragenetic Mode(s):
| Paragenetic Mode | Earliest Age (Ga) |
|---|---|
| Stage 7: Great Oxidation Event | <2.4 |
| 47a : [Near-surface hydration of prior minerals] | |
| 47e : [Vanadates, chromates, manganates] | |
| 47h : [Near-surface oxidized, dehydrated minerals] | |
| Stage 10a: Neoproterozoic oxygenation/terrestrial biosphere | <0.6 |
| 50 : Coal and/or oil shale minerals | <0.36 |
| Stage 10b: Anthropogenic minerals | <10 Ka |
| 54 : Coal and other mine fire minerals (see also #51 and #56) |
Type Occurrence of Ilsemannite
Reference:
Höfer, H. (1871) Ilsemannit, ein natürliches Molybdänsalz. Neues Jahrbuch für Mineralogie, Geologie und Palaontologie: 1871: 566-570.
Synonyms of Ilsemannite
Other Language Names for Ilsemannite
Common Associates
Associated Minerals Based on Photo Data:
| 15 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Jordisite | MoS2 |
| 9 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Tugarinovite | MoO2 |
| 6 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Anhydrite | CaSO4 |
| 6 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Molybdenite | MoS2 |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Chistyakovaite | Al(UO2)2(AsO4)2(F,OH) · 6.5H2O |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Mourite | UMo5O12(OH)10 |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Iriginite | (UO2)Mo2O7 · 3H2O |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Raydemarkite | MoO3 · H2O |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Baryte | BaSO4 |
| 4 photos of Ilsemannite associated with Halotrichite | FeAl2(SO4)4 · 22H2O |
Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping
| 4.FJ. | Raydemarkite | MoO3 · H2O |
| 4.FJ.05 | Meymacite | WO3 · 2H2O |
| 4.FJ.05 | Sidwillite | MoO3 · 2H2O |
| 4.FJ.10 | Tungstite | WO3 · H2O |
| 4.FJ.15 | Hydrotungstite | WO3 · 2H2O |
Other Information
Notes:
Solublizes in H2O giving a deep molybdenum-blue solution.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.
Internet Links for Ilsemannite
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References for Ilsemannite
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Localities for Ilsemannite
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The Locality List
- This locality has map coordinates listed.
- This locality has estimated coordinates.
ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence.
? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality.
- Good crystals or important locality for species.
- World class for species or very significant.
(TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species.
(FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties).
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Australia | |
| Hurtig et al. (2014) |
| |
| Bottrill et al. (2008) |
Austria (TL) | |
| Am Min 36 (1951) +1 other reference |
| L. Kostelka: Der Karinthin (1956) | |
| Gerhard Niedermayr | |
| Exel (1993) |
| 54. +1 other reference |
Brazil | |
| WABER et al. (1992) +1 other reference |
China | |
| Min et al. (2002) |
| Dahlkamp (2009) |
| Guangyin Shen (2011) | |
| Liu et al. (2022) |
| Dahlkamp et al. (2009) |
| Dahlkamp et al. (2009) |
| Dahlkamp et al. (2009) |
Czech Republic | |
| Jirásek (2001) |
| Scharm +7 other references |
| Sejkora +1 other reference |
Gabon | |
| Geffroy et al. (1960) |
Germany | |
| Walenta (1992) |
| Hegemann (1949) +1 other reference |
| Möhn et al. (07/2020) |
| Wittern (2001) |
| Wittern (2001) |
| Mineralien-Welt (2) |
| Wittern (2001) |
| Wittern (2001) |
| T. Witzke & F. Rüger: Lapis 1998 (7/8) |
Guatemala | |
| Stoiber et al. (1974) +1 other reference |
Indonesia | |
| - (E. Nitta, M. Kimata, M. Hoshino, T. Echigo, S. Hamasaki, H. Shinohara, N. Nishida, T. Hatta, M. Shimizu ) | |
| Imants Kavalieros (1994) |
Japan | |
| F. Africano et al. (2002) |
| F. Africano et al. (2002) | |
| Field observations | |
| F. Africano et al. (2002) +1 other reference | |
Mexico | |
| Panczner (1987) |
| Lapis 2001 (1) |
Romania | |
| Szakáll (2002) |
Russia | |
| Yu. Engalychev (2019) |
| - (E. Nitta, M. Kimata, M. Hoshino, T. Echigo, S. Hamasaki, H. Shinohara, N. Nishida, T. Hatta, M. Shimizu ) +2 other references |
| Vergasova et al. (1977) +1 other reference |
| Kiseleva et al. (2008) |
| Pavel.M. Kartashov (n.d.) |
| Pavel.M. Kartashov (n.d.) | |
Slovenia | |
| • Aleksander Rečnik (2010) | |
| Terzic () | |
South Africa | |
| Cairncross et al. (1995) |
Switzerland | |
| EDX & XRD (amorphous) |
Tajikistan | |
| D.I.Belakovskiy data |
| Pavel.M. Kartashov (n.d.) +2 other references | |
UK | |
| Raymond (1959) +1 other reference |
USA | |
| Witkind (1963) +1 other reference |
| Graeme (1981) |
| Anthony et al. (1995) |
| Bollin et al. (1958) +1 other reference |
| Bollin & Kerr (1958) +1 other reference | |
| Scarborough (1981) | |
| Anthony et al. (1995) |
| Anthony et al. (1995) | |
| Scarborough (1981) | |
| Gornitz (2004) |
| Scarborough (1981) |
| Petersen et al. (1959) +1 other reference | |
| Palache et al. (1951) +1 other reference |
| Page et al. (1956) +2 other references |
| Van Nostrand Reinholt Press: 79 +2 other references |
| Van Nostrand Reinholt Press: 341. +2 other references | |
| Van Nostrand Reinholt Press: 341. +3 other references |
| - (2005) |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Dings et al. (1957) |
| Dings et al. (1957) | |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| - (2005) |
| - (2005) | |
| Eckel et al. (1997) | |
| Eckel et al. (1997) | |
| - (2005) |
| Page et al. (1956) +3 other references |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Eckel et al. (1997) |
| Carnein et al. (2005) |
| Castor et al. (2004) |
| NBMG Bull 78 Geology and Mineral ... +2 other references |
| NBMG Bull 78 Geology and Mineral ... +2 other references | |
| Schilling (1979) +1 other reference | |
| - (2005) | |
| Castor et al. (2004) | |
| Castor et al. (2004) |
| Schilling (1979) +1 other reference |
| Castor et al. (2004) | |
| - (2005) | |
| - (2005) | |
| - (2005) | |
| - (2005) | |
| Castor et al. (2004) |
| Schilling (1979) |
| Schilling (1979) +1 other reference |
| - (2005) |
| Ken Coleman Collection |
| NBMG Bull 70 Geology and Mineral ... +2 other references |
| Schilling (1979) +1 other reference | |
| Northrop et al. (1996) |
| Ramon S. DeMark +4 other references |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| - (2005) | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| - (2005) | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| NMBMMR Memoir 15 Geology and Technology ... | |
| - (2005) |
| Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology NBMG ... |
| Smith et al. (2000) |
| Roberts et al. (1965) | |
| Roberts et al. (1965) |
| Smith et al. (2000) |
| Smith (1991) +1 other reference |
| Smith (1991) |
| - (2005) | |
| - (2005) | |
| MINERALS OF THE KARNES URANIUM ... | |
| - (2005) |
| Luetcke (n.d.) |
| Young et al. (1960) |
| Bullock (1981) |
| Collection of Philip Bluemner |
| Page et al. (1956) +2 other references |
| Bullock (1981) | |
| Bullock (1981) | |
| Bullock (1981) |
| Mccaskey +1 other reference |
| Bullock (1981) |
| Bullock (1981) | |
| Bullock (1981) |
| Bullock (1981) | |
| - (2005) | |
| USGS Bull 1125 |
| Olds et al. (2023) |
| Bullock (1981) +1 other reference | |
| USGS TEI #514 +5 other references | |
| - (2005) |
| - (2005) |
| Bullock (1981) | |
| - (2005) | |
| Rocks & Minerals 76:383 |
| - (2005) |
| www.excaliburmineral.com +5 other references | |
| - (2005) | |
| - (2005) |
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