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A Scientific Study of the Absorption of Evil by Vivianite

Last Updated: 14th Sep 2020

By Alfredo Petrov

by Alfredo Petrov, 2006



Every mineral collector has at one time or another probably drooled over a gemmy green vivianite from Morococala, Huanuni, Llallagua or Tomokoni in Bolivia, or Trepca in Serbia, or the Blackbird mines in Idaho, but hesitated to buy it because they had heard that vivianite crystals are unstable and will eventually turn black and fall apart, especially when exposed to bright light; or perhaps they went ahead and purchased a fine crystal anyway because some reputable high-end dealer (undoubtedly a highly successful used car salesman in a previous life) assured them that this particular extremely fine and important specimen came from a locality which produces "stable" vivianite – stable because of some magical ingredient in the matrix, or absence of something in the matrix, or lack of oxygen at the high elevations the crystal grew in, or lack of bacteria at the high elevation….. You get the picture. Or perhaps the dealer convinced the customer that he wouldn’t have a problem with vivianites because he lived in a sufficiently dry region (or a sufficiently humid one), or at a high Rocky Mountain altitude with low atmospheric oxygen….

All of this nonsense comes from statements I personally heard while wandering around mineral shows, or read in dealer advertizing; I promise I didn’t make any of them up. Unfortunately, the bad news is that ALL vivianite suffers from the same type of instability; the good news is that its decomposition can be easily prevented. But before we discuss how to preserve vivianite specimens we need to understand the chemical mechanism involved in its self-destruction.

My favorite explanation for the instability of vivianite came from a couple of lovable young mystical counterculture types I met at the Tucson gem and mineral show. They had bought several bolivian vivianites from me at Tucson 2003 and came back for more in 2004. “The last ones we got turned black already”, they told me with a happy - even gleeful - expression. “Did you leave them in a sunny window?”, I asked, “You mustn’t expose them to bright light”. Turns out they wanted their vivianites to turn black and were delighted when the hoped-for phenomenon really happened. Apparently, vivianite gradually gets darker and darker by absorbing “evil energies” from its surroundings. After it gets black one has to throw it away and go buy a fresh one. I hadn’t known this before but, as an occasional exporter of bolivian vivianite, I thought it was a wonderful discovery! This unexpected and valuable property of vivianite will surely expand the market for it, and Bolivia will finally have a near monopoly on a natural resource the rest of the world will be standing in line to buy (especially considering the amount of evil our current administration has discovered lurking in evolutionary biology textbooks, sex education classes, the Iranian government, embryonic stem cell labs, gay weddings ….).

Probably not a whole lot of mystics read my articles, so I sort of feel an obligation to come up with an explanation that involves more physical chemistry and fewer supernatural powers: The vivianite molecule is a phosphate of divalent iron, with a lot of water: Fe2+3(PO4)2(H2O)8. It crystallizes in several types of environment, and we ought to describe these before we get into the crystal chemistry:

One environment is mud and other low-oxygen sedimentary rocks, usually in the reducing environment associated with fossil organic matter – Such localities include the world’s largest vivianite crystals (more than a meter long) from mud in Cameroon, the aesthetic crystal sprays in fossil shells from the Kerch peninsula on the Black Sea, the concretions from lake bed and seafloor muds at several localities in Japan, and those from various U.S. localities including Florida, New Jersey, and Contra Costa county, California. Bones and teeth buried in peat bogs are sometimes replaced by vivianite.

Another type of environment is hydrothermal sulphide ore veins, including all the localities already mentioned in the first paragraph above, along with the Ashio mine in Japan, and other mines in Peru, Cornwall, Colorado and elsewhere. It is this latter environment, the hydrothermal veins, that produces the most splendid crystal specimens with the classic gemmy green colour. While on the subject of hydrothermal ore vein vivianite, we should kill another myth that occasionally shows up in print (eg: Bideaux, et al., in the Handbook of Mineralogy): Yes, a lot of colourful phosphates may be characteristic of the oxide zone of ore deposits, but vivianite is not one of them! You hardly ever find it in limonitic vugs in gossan. (I'm tempted to say "never", but I know someone will then come up with an exception!) It occurs associated with siderite and unoxidized pyrite and other sulphides in deep unoxidized levels of ore deposits; if your specimen appears to be sitting on limonite, check more carefully – the “limonite” will generally turn out to be hisingerite or some other brown iron silicate or phosphate.

Phosphate-rich pegmatites, like the ones in the Black Hills (South Dakota), provide another, although relatively minor, source of vivianite, most recently some fairly large crystals perched on muscovite from Brazil. Other vivianite environments, of no importance to collectors, include rocks altered by coal mine fires, and smelter slags.

The late Dr. Fred Pough observed that sedimentary vivianite changed colour and flaked apart faster than hydrothermal vivianite. I haven’t studied this in a controlled experiment, but subjectively I tend to agree with him. If this is indeed true, the increased instability may be caused by other elements substituting for Fe or P in the crystal lattice. Sedimentary vivianite from lake bed muds, for instance, can contain several weight percent manganese substituting for iron, whereas hydrothermal vivianites (at least those from the Siglo XX and Ashio mines) contain only negligible traces of Mn and Mg replacing Fe.

Now let’s look at the self-destruction mechanism: Some people think vivianite darkens by oxidation – absorbing oxygen from the atmosphere – and then flakes apart along the cleavages by “drying out”, i.e. losing some of its 8 waters. They optimistically hope that both of these processes can be hindered by a thin coating of lacquer (which is why some specimens in old collections were varnished), or by dipping in oil, or sealing it in a glass jar. They are correct that both oxidation and water loss are taking place, but not in the way they imagine and not in any way that could be prevented by a coating of lacquer no matter how thick! To somewhat oversimplify and paraphrase the process, when photons (particles of light energy) enter a transparent vivianite crystal, they can knock a proton (a hydrogen nucleus) out of one of the 8 water molecules, which converts the water into a hydroxyl ion (OH) which has a negative charge. This extra negative charge is balanced by oxidation of one iron atom, whose valence state changes from 2+ (ferrous) to 3+ (ferric). Notice that no interaction with the atmosphere was involved – No oxygen entered the structure from outside, and no water molecule escaped to the outside; we are dealing with a completely internal reaction (oxidation by deprotonation). The liberated hydrogen (the proton) easily migrates through the crystal lattice, as in other species of proton-conducting crystals (which are currently undergoing intense study for potential industrial uses like fuel cells). No coat of lacquer is going to prevent this.

The end result is that the vivianite changes into another mineral species, metavivianite (also known as "kertschenite"), Fe2+2Fe3+(PO4)2(OH)(H2O)7. This alteration is accompanied by a progressive colour change. Absolutely pure fresh end-member vivianite is colourless! A minor amount of light-induced oxidation rapidly changes the colour to a brilliant transparent green – We are talking here in terms of a few minutes rather than weeks or years. Further oxidation changes the colour to a deeper emerald green and a strong pleochroism sets in, with the colour in transmitted light becoming a cobalt blue when the crystal is rotated to a certain angle. The mystical crowd gets quite excited by this “blue flash” and believe such vivianite crystals to be special; it is, alas, just one stage on the timeline to self-destruction. Eventually the whole crystal turns an opaque deep blue and finally bluish black. As a historical aside, powdered vivianite used to be used in blue oil paint, with the blue colour becoming more intense as time went on, as opposed to powdered azurite paint which tends to slowly alter into malachite, resulting in the greenish skies of some old paintings.

Theoretically, if another proton gets knocked out of the molecule, we get the mineral ferrostrunzite, Fe2+Fe3+2(PO4)2(OH)2(H2O)6, but this does not happen as easily as the change from vivianite to metavivianite. The reason is that the iron in vivianite actually occupies two different types of sites (the formula as usually written is oversimplified and doesn’t reflect the structure very well), and one of these structural sites is easier to oxidize than the other. By the time metavivianite is formed, most of the more easily oxidized Fe has already been used up.

Knocking out yet one more proton would leave us with Fe3+3(PO4)2(OH)3(H2O)5, which corresponds to the species ferristrunzite and santabarbaraite. No further reaction can take place because at this point there is no more divalent iron left to oxidize. Since santabarbaraite occurs as pseudomorphs after vivianite, it would seem that these reactions really do happen in nature, although light may not play a role in these later stages.

A similar oxidation process also happens to paravauxite, Fe2+Al2(PO4)2(OH)2(H2O)8, which alters to sigloite, Fe3+Al2(PO4)2(OH)3(H2O)7, after a few hours in close proximity to an incandescent light bulb; perhaps heat is the culprit here rather than light. Some other species of hydrous ferrous phosphates, for example ludlamite and vauxite, seem to be stable and remain unaffected under these conditions, in spite of their chemical similarity to vivianite and paravauxite.

Another factor that remains to be tested is which wavelengths of light are responsible for the reaction in vivianite. Many people assume that blue and ultraviolet light, the more energetic wavelengths, must be responsible, but this is not necessarily the case and I have a hunch that yellow, red or infrared might be responsible. (In the case of another light-sensitive mineral, realgar, it has already been determined that green light is the violent destructive agent, not blue or ultraviolet.)

The practical application of these theories is that we can suggest two alternative courses of action for preserving the transparency and color of pristine vivianite crystals:

1) Keep them in the dark. That doesn’t mean “shade”; it means in a closed cotton-lined box in a drawer, not in a glass case. Let the great unwashed public ooh and aah over your green tourmaline, emerald and forsterite; they don’t need to see your vivianites. Reserve the vivianite for short-term viewing by your connoisseur friends – A few minutes exposure indoors once in a while isn’t going to noticeably hurt it.

2) Keep all evil out of the house. Meditate. Burn incense. Avoid nasty thoughts about your ex-spouse and mother-in-law. Don’t be jealous of your neighbour’s new boat. Before your next cocktail party, remove from your guest list any drug dealers, terrorists, politicians and lawyers.

Personally, I think the first method is more likely to be effective.


(A previous version of this article was published in the October 2006 issue of Mineral News.)




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28th Dec 2007 03:53 UTCDaniel Russell

"Turns out they wanted their vivianites to turn black and were delighted when the hoped-for phenomenon really happened. Apparently, vivianite gradually gets darker and darker by absorbing “evil energies” from its surroundings."


Woohoo! Think about the business someone could do by selling them artificial silver halide crystals! *AND* they would be recyclable!

28th Dec 2007 14:28 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Think how evil certain dealers must be if they can turn Romanian quartz groups black!

3rd Jan 2008 19:27 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

My hackmannite faded after I left it out in the light, this bodes badly, I suppose... But wait, I forced all the evil back into it by exposing it to UV light! Woohoo!

26th Jan 2008 04:57 UTCRalph S Bottrill 🌟 Manager

Great article Alfredo - any chance of borrowing it for our local Min Soc newsletter?
Ralph

27th Jun 2008 21:22 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Thanks so much Alfredo for answering many questions I have had for a long time!!! My sigloite isn't as rare as I thought!!!

31st Aug 2011 20:47 UTCJohn M Stolz Expert

Alfredo--many thanks for the lucid explanation. I'm just glad I came across it before I leapt. But... what a shame, it was a gorgeous specimen...

5th Feb 2012 11:44 UTCJürgen Wachsmuth

Alfredo,
thank you for this article which I received through the newsletter Micro-Scope from New Zealand. Hard facts, and written very well. I hope we may expect more.

25th Mar 2013 17:57 UTCDave Crosby

How delightful Alfredo! Every word delicious!
I was just re-reading "Turquois" (no e) by Joseph E. Pogue where I learned (p. 8)from Aristotle that Turquois prevents death by accident and is beneficial for scorpion and reptile stings!
On page 14, "The turquois" says Aristotle, "is a stone with which the Kings of Damascus never omitted to adorn their necks and hands and to employ for many other purposes because among the great, the stone possesses the property of removing from it's wearer the danger of being killed, and is therefore never to be seen on the hands or worn by a person killed."

What a terrible way to find out that you aren't that great after your body was robbed. No one could ever prove you were wearing turquoise. (sob, blubber - Oh, I'm dead and can't express my chagrin!)

29th Nov 2014 23:12 UTCKeith Wood

If you like a specimen and want to buy it, don't hesitate just because it has a light sensitivity issue. I have a number of nice realgars. I just take them out of packing when I want to view them rather than having them out all the time. I still enjoy them, and show them to my friends. They are very pretty and are showing no signs of deterioration. They spend 99.99% of their time in pitch darkness, being out for maybe an hour a year. Yet I still enjoy owning and looking at them. I do so fearlessly, knowing I am doing the right thing to preserve them. Treated this way they could last hundreds of years.

11th Nov 2015 23:13 UTCEmil Box

Dull black vivianite from Kertsch and Colorado treated with sodium dithionite became shining dark blue, from Colorado partly pale blue.
Is it then no IMA-mineral anymore?
Milo

15th Nov 2015 03:44 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

Interesting question, Emil.

I think if mineral "A" oxidizes to species "B", and you then use a strong reducing agent (like dithionite) to turn it back into species "A", then in reality you now have a synthetic material "A" - it would be no longer a natural mineral, even if the original composition is restored!

29th Dec 2019 14:17 UTCProdromos Nikolaidis Expert

A short but very comprehensive article using clear and simple language. Thanks Alfredo!

29th Dec 2019 17:35 UTCDavid Carter 🌟 Expert

A great little article that is incredibly informative and amusing in equal measures.

29th Dec 2019 22:32 UTCEd Clopton 🌟 Expert

Excellent article!

Now, how can we incorporate take-home point #1 at the end into Mindat's vivianite page where more casual users might benefit from it?  (It certainly should be included under the References for vivianite.)  The statement describing its color under "About Vivianite" at the very beginning hints at the color instability but says nothing about protecting it from light (nor would that be appropriate there).   Then there is the "Other Information" section right above the References that states rather clinically that it "darkens in H2O2" but again doesn't mention its extreme sensitivity to light.  If I were new to mineral collecting and wanted to know how to care for my new vivianite specimen (and if I knew that the Other Information section existed) I would hope to find that info there before it was too late.

In general there is much useful curatorial "care & feeding" info that could be posted in the little-known "Other Information" section of many species pages, but because that heading appears only when something has been entered under it, it seldom appears.  If it were included on every species page, Mindaters might be prompted by the blank space under "Other Information" to fill it in.

30th Dec 2019 20:20 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

Thank you all for your kind comments. I‘m happy that someone finds the information useful. But now that more than 13 years have gone by since I originally wrote this, the mineralogy needs updating a bit. Metavivianite might have the same formula as ferrostrunzite, or might be somewhat variable oxidation state. Kertschenite has been better described as a mixture. Similar ferric analogues of vauxite and phosphophyllite have been described... Alas, things tend to grow more complicated rather than more simple, or perhaps it‘s just my brain getting weaker.

30th Dec 2019 22:25 UTCGareth Evans

Hello Alfredo:

Now we know the problem, what can we do about finding an even better solution.  The article was written almost 14 years ago, so there has been plenty of time to find other solutions to the problem. And please do not take this as any sort of criticism. Putting the mineral in a draw is akin to sending one's aging parents off to the nursing home. They are out of the way until one sees the need to visit them.  I do not have Vivianite to work with, but it would be a fun to do some work with the mineral after i have finished with realgar.

Kind Regards

Gareth

1st Jan 2020 01:57 UTCAntonio Nazario

I always enjoy listening to these “explanations” from the metaphysical crowd.

31st Dec 2019 03:32 UTCErin Delventhal Manager

Fabulous article, Alfredo.
By some coincidence, I just came into my first vivianite specimen and was just asking these kinds of questions - how nice to have your explanation pop up.

(I am not sure how possible it is to cleanse my house of evil, so I suppose I will opt for darkness.)

31st Dec 2019 05:13 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Alfredo Petrov Manager  ✉️

Alas, things tend to grow more complicated rather than more simple, or perhaps it‘s just my brain getting weaker.
 Thanks Alfredo - great little article

You said above" Alas, things tend to grow more complicated rather than more simple, or perhaps it‘s just my brain getting weaker". 
Maybe its just your "evil mind" and you need to meditate more to clear those thoughts!! ((-:).

I've always admired those Bolivian Vivianites but never acquired one. Happy to see those in museums and in other collections. My Australian vivianites, despite being kept in the dark, have gone to the dark side (black) and obviously dried out somewhat and are now very unstable. I also had a very nice thumbnail Virginian vivianite that gave up the ghost and crumbled to dust despite being in one of those little magnifying boxes, sealed and kept in the dark. So no more vivianites for me.

At the end of the day vivianite just behaves like us - turns to dust! Oxidation is such a killer.

Thanks again for the entertaining and informative article.

31st Dec 2019 23:43 UTCGareth Evans

Hi Erin:

I cleansed my house of evil by getting rid of the TV and other sources of fake news about 20 years ago. My house is now classified as a 'Political Correctness'  free zone. The last evil we must destroy! :)

Gareth

31st Dec 2019 23:46 UTCGareth Evans

Hi Keith:

Given the two observations cited ( yours and Alfredo's) what is the best remedy for preserving the Vivianite specimens from decomposition? 

Gareth

31st Dec 2019 05:48 UTCDon Windeler

Alfredo:

I laughed my posterior off the first time I read this and have referenced it more than once in discussion -- a great combo of science and human nature / gullibility / avarice.  For the past three years I have kept all vivianites in my collection as covered up as possible -- too much evil out there to take chances....

A small note that came to mind form one of the other light-based discussions regarding green light being damaging -- that means yellow is also bad, as (in the world of additive color) yellow light is a combination of green and red wavelengths.

Given it's coming soon, happy new year to all and may your vivianites stay bright green!
D.

31st Dec 2019 23:41 UTCGareth Evans

Don:

Interesting. Does that mean if I pass yellow light through a prism I should get both green and red? I know when I pass white light through a prism I get all the colours of the rainbow.

Gareth

1st Jan 2020 00:16 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Gareth

I think the best way to preserve it is to leave it in-situ. It is probably already in a darkened environment to begin with and without any light.
Once out - I don't think it can be preserved over time - although the length of time may vary.
I.e.: leave the evil alone !! ((-:)

1st Jan 2020 00:42 UTCGareth Evans

Keith:

I cannot! 

It is a problem screaming to be solved.  

I will not accept defeat!

Gareth

1st Jan 2020 02:22 UTCDon Windeler

Gareth:

I haven't tried it, but I presume sending yellow through a prism would give green and red.  See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color for a figure with a simple example of what I'm talking about.

When I launched into remote sensing for grad school, one of the fun things I learned about was characteristics of the light source versus what the target is reflecting back.  I have a perspective that is driven by what wavelength ranges (or differences) one displayed in the three channels of an RGB monitor, so (knowing I haven't done much with this in the last 30 years) I'll pause on getting into potentially out-of-date commentary for now.

Cheers,
D.

1st Jan 2020 02:34 UTCGareth Evans

Hi Don:

I was just thinking that ‘yellow’ light is not well defined as far as a physicist might be concerned. The human eye can sense as yellow both monochromatic yellow light as well as combinations of red and green light.

Passing such light through a prism is, in fact, the best way to distinguish which of the two cases you have: monochromatic yellow light will just bend, whereas a mixture of different wavelengths will split at a prism. However, you can't tell which one will happen just by looking at the light.

Gareth

I have a prism and a source of yellow light (laser)

17th May 2021 12:31 UTCUdo Behner

just stumbled over it   so Fe 2+ phosphate  is photosensitive ? right  ? and will oxidize to Fe3+
 its the other way round with Fe3+ ammonium citrate which is used in the old old blueprint process
maybe  vivianite powder could be used as a pigment or in an very ancient photographic process ???  what do I know ?just nothing to do in lockdown ijust wanted to proof that you can make photos using IRN  Bru  a scottish  energy drink containing ammonium iron 3+ citrate as  acarrier of a strong iron-like  taste.  crazy germans ...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru
 
 
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