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MineralsAnorthoclase
24th Oct 2013 20:39 UTCPeter Andresen Expert
Peter
29th Oct 2013 17:31 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager
http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,14,276193,276293,quote=1
Status changed.
28th Nov 2020 04:56 UTCRalph S Bottrill 🌟 Manager
Interesting to see anorthoclase is still listed as valid on Webmineral, obviously not being updated sadly, maybe it needs to have a warning on the website?
28th Nov 2020 05:36 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager
Ralph Bottrill ???? Manager ✉️
But with the alkali feldspar series, we had anorthoclase defined as containing from 10 - 36% of the Kspar end member, and sanidine from 36 - 100% Kspar. So anything containing between 36 - 50% albite, i.e. Na>K, was still considered sanidine; this might have worked for petrologists but didn't sit well with mineralogists. The additional challenge, however, is that in the 36%-50% K-spar range, I believe the feldspar is still monoclinic. So while the triclinic 10%-36% K-spar range can be easily justified as albite, the Na-rich portion of sanidine may not quite be sanidine, but it isn't quite albite either... maybe it's really "K-stabilized monalbite"? heh heh.
I've analyzed volcanic "sanidines" with Na>K right that plot right at the 36% K-spar boundary (for example, from https://www.mindat.org/loc-190531.html ); that I almost exactly landed on the mysterious boundary I found both intriguing and somehow mineralogically telling.
Under the microscope, I can't see any evidence of anorthoclase's characteristic twinning in the particular 36% K-spar content Azores feldspar example I looked at (it may be present sub-microscopically, although I didn't see any twinning under the microprobe either):
Without evidence of twinning, I'm assuming this material is still monoclinic, and so far, I've still called it "Na-dominant sanidine" based on the 36%-100% K-spar range. But if there's a better option for a name, I'm open to seeing how how this thread evolves.
29th Nov 2020 09:10 UTCRalph S Bottrill 🌟 Manager
Yes it can be hard to try to hammer mineral definitions based on optics over chemistry, into modern nomenclature. I’m still not convinced we need orthoclase, but I think people are scared to move this motion. I recently analysed some Sanidine/Anorthoclase crystals which were as low as 37mol% K, so was unsure what to call them, as sanidine really didnt suit the Na-rich chemistry. I eventually settled on sanidine/Anorthoclase, though maybe it should really have been high albite or analbite?
28th Nov 2020 09:46 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder
28th Nov 2020 09:57 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager
28th Nov 2020 11:13 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder
Either it was discredited or it was redefined, or none of the above. We need to know what officially happened to it.
28th Nov 2020 11:28 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder
Says that the status is I for intermediate of a solid-solution series, which makes sense.
I have removed 'discredited' - it may well have been discredited or redefined - but we need to have a link to the OFFICIAL ima document listing this in order to list either of those statuses.
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