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Best of... Fluorite, Germany

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Fluorite, Germany, Black Forest, Wolfach, Clara Mine 4.5 cm wide.


Here will go some general comments about German Fluorites.

Igelschlatt Mine, Schlücht valley, Ühlingen-Birkendorf, Waldshut, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide



Segen Gottes Mine (Gottes Segen Mine; Gottessegen Mine), Haslach im Kinzigtal, Haslach im Kinzigtal, Ortenaukreis, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 11cm wide



Artenberg quarry, Steinach, Haslach im Kinzigtal, Ortenaukreis, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite & Calcite 12cm wide
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Fluorite & Calcite 10cm wide
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Fluorite & Calcite 12cm wide
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Fluorite & Calcite 10cm wide
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Fluorite & Calcite 12cm wide
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Fluorite & Calcite 10cm wide

Quartz-Calcite veins in gneiss rock. This was the best location for large fluorite octahedrons in the whole black forest. Green crystals of up to 10 cm have been found there, sitting on white calcite and looking very very attractive. Smaller crystals in blue and grey were also found, but green was the predominant color. These fluorites also have another nice feature - they fluoresce quite well. Most other black forest fluorites exhibit a rather dull fluorescence. Also a lot of the crystals have a rather "etched" looking surface composed of little fluorite cubes. Other associated minerals were quartz, pyrite, chalcopyrite and other sulfides. Though the quarry is still active there has been no fluorite find for quite some time as the part of the quarry with the fluorite mineralization is currently not in use. When the fluorites were found some local collectors used to claim the best spots and tried to keep other people away - even by threat of violence. Good calcite crystals and some of the associated ore mineralization can still be found. Permission of access is required. Since the "Naturkundemuseum Freiburg" was changed to the "Naturmuseum" and the mineral collection display there was sacrificed almost completely (shame on them) the only place I know to display Artenberg Fluorites is the Minerlienmuseum in Wolfach, near the famous Clara mine.



Teufelsgrund Mine, Belchen, Münstertal, Breisgau-Hochschwarzwald, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 5.2cm tall
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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite & Baryte 7cm wide
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Fluorite 5.2cm tall
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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite & Baryte 7cm wide
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Fluorite 5.2cm tall
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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite & Baryte 7cm wide

Teufelsgrund ("Devils Ground" ) is an abandoned Silver/Fluorite Mine in the southern Black Forest. The mine exploited several mineralized veins, with Schindler vein and Teufelsgrund vein maybe being the most important ones. The oldest record of mining on these veins is from 1512 ! - but carbon dating of a peace of charcoal fould in one of the workings reveled that mining started a lot earlier - the piece was dated to around the year 950. The mine closed in 1958 due to low Fluorite prices. It was reopened as a visitors mine some years ago and is well worth visiting. The Fluorites from this mine are really amazing. Starting with cubes and extra faces on the edges the crystals "transform" to rhombic dodecahedrons, hexoctahedrons to almost spherical structures with 282 faces (see Extra Lapis 4, Fluorite p. 72ff.). Whereas cubic crystals could reach the size of 5 cm and more the more complex crystals are rather small (mms) but make out he special magic of these pieces. Especially water clear hexakis octahedrons growing on marcasite are very famous and can be found in several museum collections. Though these crystals are tiny they can still be found on the old dumps - and is worth digging for them. The larger crystals are quite often pinkish to purple but other colors were also reported. The smaller, water clear crystals mostly have no color at all.
After its closure the mine was the used by mineral collectors to collect very beautiful specimens. This even included the use of explosives - and a really nasty accident happened. Now this is the story how I was told it: Two guys had themselves locked in underground and put some charges in place. As they did not explode as expected one of these guys went to have a look and got hit by the blast. He barely survived and was seriously wounded. Now as they were locked in the only way out was use the rest of the explosives to blast the entrance door open. They made it and the wounded person survived though he lost some fingers and had his eyes damaged. As dealing with explosives and damaging other peoples property is a serious offense these guys also faced criminal charges - but the court showed mercy and the verdict was rather mild.



Ilse Mine, Kaltbrunn, Schenkenzell, Rottweil, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm



Anton Mine, Heubach Valley, Wittichen, Schenkenzell, Rottweil, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite & Pyrite 10cm wide

Grube Anton is a rather rare locality. There is a lot of Tannenboden Mine stuff on the market but very little good material from Anton. This one I bought a few years ago from a local mineral dealer who specialices in buying old collection and selling the better pieces on mineral shows. I now live in Black Forest since 1997, but this is the first good specimen from that mine I was able to get my hands on. The coating with pyrite is a bit unusual for Wieden, but could be confirmed by comparison with similar specimens. A pity these mines are closed now. Imagine all the wonderful specimens that came out there in the 1950s and 60s.



Anton Mine, Heubach Valley, Wittichen, Schenkenzell, Rottweil, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 5cm wide



Brandenberg Mine, Todtnau, Lörrach, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 4.6cm tall



Clara Mine, Oberwolfach, Ortenaukreis, Freiburg Region, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite 15.3cm wide
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Fluorite 9.5cm wide
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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite 15.3cm wide
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Fluorite 9.5cm wide
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Fluorite 9cm wide
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Fluorite 15.3cm wide
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Fluorite 9.5cm wide
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Fluorite 10.3cm wide
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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 10.3cm wide
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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 10.3cm wide
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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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1.4mm Fluorite on matrix
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Fluorite FOV 2mm
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1.4mm Fluorite on matrix
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Fluorite FOV 2mm
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1.4mm Fluorite on matrix
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Fluorite FOV 2mm



Zufurt quarry, Tröstauer Forst-West, Wunsiedel im Fichtelgebirge, Upper Franconia, Bavaria, Germany

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Fluorite ~12cm wide
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Fluorite 20cm wide
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Fluorite ~12cm wide
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Fluorite 20cm wide
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Fluorite ~12cm wide
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Fluorite 20cm wide



Epprechtstein, Kirchenlamitz, Wunsiedel im Fichtelgebirge, Upper Franconia, Bavaria, Germany

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Fluorite ~5.5cm wide
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Fluorite Fluorite 2.4cm wide
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Fluorite ~5.5cm wide
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Fluorite Fluorite 2.4cm wide
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Fluorite ~5.5cm wide
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Fluorite Fluorite 2.4cm wide



Wölsendorf fluorite mining district, Upper Palatinate, Bavaria, Germany

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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 12cm wide
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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 12cm wide
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Fluorite 13cm wide
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Fluorite 12cm wide



Marienschacht Mine, Wölsendorf, Schwarzach bei Nabburg, Schwandorf District, Upper Palatinate, Bavaria, Germany

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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 11.5cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 11.5cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 11.5cm wide
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Fluorite 7.8cm wide
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Fluorite
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Fluorite 7.8cm wide
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Fluorite
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Fluorite 7.8cm wide
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Fluorite



Samson Mine, St Andreasberg, Braunlage, Goslar District, Lower Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 6cm wide



Laacher See Volcanic Complex, Germany

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Fluorite Fluorite FOV 4mm
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Fluorite FOV 4mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite FOV 4mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite FOV 4mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite FOV 3mm
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Fluorite ball with Sanidine FOV 2mm
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Fluorite with dendrite FOV3mm
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Fluorite FOV 6mm
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Fluorite ball with Sanidine FOV 2mm
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Fluorite with dendrite FOV3mm
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Fluorite FOV 6mm
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Fluorite ball with Sanidine FOV 2mm
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Fluorite with dendrite FOV3mm
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Fluorite FOV 6mm



Ettringer Bellerberg, Ettringen, Vordereifel, Mayen-Koblenz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany

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Fluorite FOV 1.5mm



Juchem Quarry, Niederwörresbach, Herrstein-Rhaunen, Birkenfeld, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany

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Fluorite Fluorite FOV 7cm



Stolberg, Südharz, Mansfeld-Südharz, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

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Fluorite 6cm wide



Rottleberode, Südharz, Mansfeld-Südharz, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

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Fluorite 12cm wide
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Fluorite 9.1cm wide
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Fluorite 12cm wide
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Fluorite 9.1cm wide
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Fluorite 12cm wide
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Fluorite 9.1cm wide



Flußschacht Mine, Rottleberode, Südharz, Mansfeld-Südharz, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide



Euba, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & Quartz FOV 5cm wide



Chemnitz Petrified Forest, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & petrified wood 6cm wide



Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 12.7cm wide



Dörfel Quarry (Bögl Quarry), Dörfel, Schlettau, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 2.5cm wide
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1cm Fluorite on Quartz
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Fluorite 2.5cm wide
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1cm Fluorite on Quartz
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Fluorite 2.5cm wide
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1cm Fluorite on Quartz



Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & Quartz 2cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz FOV 2cm wide
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Fluorite 3.8cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 2cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz FOV 2cm wide
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Fluorite 3.8cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 2cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz FOV 2cm wide
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Fluorite 3.8cm wide



Bergmännisch Glück Flacher vein, Frisch Glück adit (Adit 134), Bergmännisch Glück Mine, Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 7cm wide



Bergmännisch Glück Flacher vein, Frisch Glück adit (Adit 134), Bergmännisch Glück Mine, Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & Barite 6cm wide



Nowaja Shaft (Shaft 78), Schottenberg, Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 4.5cm tall



Zehntausend Ritter Mine, Kippenhain Mine (Kippenhayn Mine), Schreckenberg, Frohnau, Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite ~4.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 7.5cm tall
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Fluorite ~4.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 7.5cm tall
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Fluorite ~4.5cm wide
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Fluorite ?cm
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Fluorite 7.5cm tall
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Fluorite ~6cm wide
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Fluorite 4.2cm wide
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Fluorite & Barite 4cm wide
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Fluorite ~6cm wide
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Fluorite 4.2cm wide
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Fluorite & Barite 4cm wide
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Fluorite ~6cm wide
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Fluorite 4.2cm wide
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Fluorite & Barite 4cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm wide
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Fluorite 5.8cm wide
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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm wide
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Fluorite 5.8cm wide
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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm wide
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Fluorite 5.8cm wide
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Fluorite 4.5cm wide
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Fluorite 7cm wide
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Fluorite 10cm tall
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Fluorite 7cm wide
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Fluorite 10cm tall
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Fluorite 7cm wide
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Fluorite 10cm tall



Tannebaum Mine (Wismut Shaft 98), Antonsthal, Breitenbrunn, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 6.9cm tall



Rittersgrün, Breitenbrunn, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 7.9cm tall



Kaffenberg, Rittersgrün, Breitenbrunn, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & Marcasite 6cm tall



Sauberg Mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite, Siderite & Chalcopyrite 4.2cm wide



Freiberg, Mittelsachsen, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 6cm wide
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite 12.6cm wide
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Fluorite 8.4cm wide
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Fluorite 10.7cm wide
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Fluorite 12.6cm wide
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Fluorite 8.4cm wide
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Fluorite 10.7cm wide
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Fluorite 12.6cm wide
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Fluorite 8.4cm wide
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Fluorite 10.7cm wide



Halsbrücke, Mittelsachsen, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 3.4cm wide


Beihilfe Mine, Halsbrücke, Mittelsachsen, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Chalcopyrite 15cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm tall
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Chalcopyrite 15cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm tall
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Fluorite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Chalcopyrite 15cm wide
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Fluorite 8cm tall
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Fluorite & Quartz 12 cm tall
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Fluorite 12.7cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 12 cm tall
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Fluorite 12.7cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 12 cm tall
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Fluorite 12.7cm wide



Gersdorf, Striegistal, Mittelsachsen, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 8cm wide



Johnsbach, Glashütte, Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite, Barite & Quartz 19cm wide



Marienberg mining district, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite & Barite 8.9cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 5.7cm wide
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Fluorite & Barite 8.9cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 5.7cm wide
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Fluorite & Barite 8.9cm wide
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Fluorite & Quartz 5.7cm wide



Gelbe Birke Mine, Beierfeld, Grünhain-Beierfeld, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 9.5cm wide



Schwarzenberg, Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 3.5cm wide



Bösenbrunn, Vogtlandkreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite 3.7cm tall
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Fluorite & Calcite FOV 4.5cm
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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite 3.7cm tall
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Fluorite & Calcite FOV 4.5cm
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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite 3.7cm tall
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Fluorite & Calcite FOV 4.5cm
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Fluorite 6.5cm wide
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Fluorite 6.3cm wide
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Fluorite 6.9cm wide
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Fluorite 4.1cm wide
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Fluorite 6.3cm wide
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Fluorite 6.9cm wide
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Fluorite 4.1cm wide
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Fluorite 6.3cm wide
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Fluorite 6.9cm wide
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Fluorite 4.1cm wide

The mineralization is similar to that of the Fluorites from Schönbrunn Glockenpöhl quarry a vein with light blue cubes up to several cm.



Bösenbrunn, Vogtlandkreis, Saxony, Germany

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.7cm Fluorite xl on matrix

Good honey-brown cubes, often covered with pyrite.



Ludwig-Vereinigt Feld Mine, Schönbrunn, Bösenbrunn, Vogtlandkreis, Saxony, Germany

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Fluorite on Siderite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Siderite UV image of left
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Fluorite & Quartz 12cm wide
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Fluorite on Siderite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Siderite UV image of left
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Fluorite & Quartz 12cm wide
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Fluorite on Siderite 11cm wide
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Fluorite & Siderite UV image of left
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Fluorite & Quartz 12cm wide



Schönbrunn, Bösenbrunn, Vogtlandkreis, Saxony, Germany


This mine produces specimens of Fluorite with several generations: violet octahedrons up to several cm with quartz and orthoclase (var. Paradoxite); white to yellow octahedral xls with carved edges (so-called Ochsenaugen (bull's eyes)); cubes with calcite).



Zinnwald-Cínovec mining region, Ore Mountains, Europe

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Fluorite & Quartz 7.3cm tall



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25th Mar 2009 15:58 UTCRock Currier Expert

Sebastian,

Have you gone through the German fluorite images on mindat to see what might be usable to illustrate the article? I find that actually looking at the images of real specimens is a good way to focus my attention on what needs to be included, what might not and what localities I may have forgotten. When I see a likely looking candidate image in a mindat gallery, I copy its locality and URL into notepad or word. I then bring them over here and insert them into a thread posting where they will be handy to work with. I have about ten pictures of good German fluorites that I can scan and up load to Mindat, some of which might be candidates for the article. If you would like to try writing the article on German fluorites, Ill scan and up load them for you.

25th Mar 2009 17:49 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


So far I haven't looked at the mindat fluorite photos, but I will take a look these days.


You can see a very good article (in German) here: Fluorite1 and here Fluorite2.


I have several specimen from the Black Forest I can take photos of and include them. These are from Wieden, Münstertal, Artenberg, Clara mine, Käfersteige.


I would be very kind of you to upload your pictures but could you give me the localities first, so that I can include them? The list in my letter above is only a short list of some very famous lacalities that came to my mind first when I thought about German Fluorites. Most of the Black Forest and Erzgebirge Mts. locations I have visited myself.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

25th Mar 2009 19:35 UTCRock Currier Expert

Sebastian,

My old college German is not up to the task of translating your articles, but the specimens and images you used are mostly much better than those on the Mindat German Fluorite gallery. You even had some locality photos which we like to link to the articles when we can. Here is picture of a fluorite and Calcite specimen I got many hears ago from the Gordon Vaux collection. The locality given is the Churtring Mine, near Gross Schrima, near Freiberg, Saxony, Germany. I can't find any such mine in Mindat. What do you think? Very strange crystal shape. The other two are good specimens but the only localities I have are Germany. Perhaps the locality will be obvious to you. I have three more labeled only Gersdorf, one from Todtenau and another on siderite from Stolberg.

26th Mar 2009 11:07 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


Thanks for the pictures. The third could be from Freiberg, Saxony, too. Looks like it's either Gersdorf or Halsbrücke.


The article isn't mine, but from Peter Seroka, a German collector and dealer. You could try to contact him, he is one of the people best knowing how to make an article on best fluorites worldwide. Most of the fluorite photos used there are from private collectors, of whom I know some. I could ask there if they would give me the permission to use their photos. It's a pity that the article is only in German language, as it would be of interest worldwide.


The localities are:


Churprinz mine, Halsbrücker Spatgang (Halsbrücke spar vein), Großschirma, 7 km NW of Freiberg, Saxony (have been there one time in the 1990'ies)


Gersdorf is: Segen Gottes mine,Gersdorf near Roßwein, Freiberg mining district, Saxony (this has produced very nice pale yellowish to greenish yellow cubes with baryte nuts).


Todtenau is actually Todtnau, Black Forest (one of my favorite collecting spots now)


Stolberg is in the Harz Mts., could be Stolberg itself or Rottleberode, both localities have produced fluorite, although Rottleberode is far more known for its Fluorite.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

26th Mar 2009 21:29 UTCRock Currier Expert

Sebastian,

Do you know Peter Seroka personally? If so why don't you approach him and see if he might be interested in helping with the project. I have sen't bill Dammeron (Barite Bill) an email asking him to check out what we are doing and to see if he might be interested in helping with the project.

26th Mar 2009 21:42 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


Rock: I have had limited contact (e-mails, messages) with both Peter Seroka and Barite Bill and I will send them both a message the next days.


I have tried to take some photos of my Fluorite specimens, but I have still to improve the quality. Most of the photos aren't still ready for a Best Minerals page.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

27th Mar 2009 02:00 UTCRock Currier Expert

Sebastian,

If you want you can send one or two of your pictures here as attachments these thread entries for comments on them. I may be able to help or not. I used to take a lot of pictures of minerals and think I learned a few things. I would like to get back into it, and have a good camera, but need to spend some money and get a good lighting system. Most of the guys who do it well spend more on their lighting systems than they do on their cameras.

27th Mar 2009 08:29 UTCThomas Uhlig Expert

Hi there,


some of the fluorite pictures in the article linked above were taken by me. I have put a lot more photographs of German, especially Saxon fluorites on mineralienatlas.de. My nickname there is "Schluchti", so the copyright is often stated this way. If you want to, you could use my pictures you like on mindat.org. Indeed a lot of my older pictures are of low quality. Some of the pictured specimens are not in my own collection, so please refer the owner of the specimens in the picture description, if they are not in my collection (you can see this in the row "Sammlung:" ).


You could check out especially the following pages, that give a preview to the newest pictures from fluorites from these localities on the subordinated pages (you could go to the subordinated pages by clicking e.g. "Bilder (max. 3) aus "Deutschland/Sachsen/Erzgebirge/Revier Annaberg/Frohnau" ). On the picture tables you could browse forward ( to the older pictures) by clicking the red highlighted "weiter >>". By clicking on a thumbnail you get a first preview of the picture. Full resolution you could get by clicking on "Originalbild in voller Größe und Qualität ansehen (eigenes Fenster)" above the picture.

Annaberg district

Poehla district

Freiberg district


Especially: Beihilfe mine


If I can help you in some way, let me know.


best regards

Thomas

27th Mar 2009 08:36 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


Rock: I will upload some this evening.


Thomas: Thanks for your help. I do really appreciate it. I send you a PN.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

27th Mar 2009 08:46 UTCRock Currier Expert

Thomas,

Some of your fluorites are pretty good specimens and I am sure would find a home in the German best minerals article. How much do you know about the localities that they come from? Pictures are an important part of what we are trying to do here, but equally or more important is to try and impart to the person looking at the articles is to put them in the picture on how good the specimens from a particular locality get, how abundant are the specimens from that locality, what the largest crystals are (I know that the specimens with the largest crystals are usually far from the best ones), when they were found etc. All the things that we as collectors learn about building our collections but is rarely recorded. Then of course after that we would like to have something of the geology associated with the specimens and the history of the locality. This need not be extensive, but the more detailed the better. Do you think you might be able to help with that?

27th Mar 2009 09:00 UTCThomas Uhlig Expert

Hi Rock,


that would be no problem. I think, I could contribute some of the desired informations about these localities. I put them in here, as soon as I find some time for.


best regards

Thomas

27th Mar 2009 09:13 UTCRock Currier Expert

Thomas,

Thanks for your offer. Ill look forward to seeing what you can contribute. It is also important for us to know who has detailed knowledge of certain localities so we can to back to them and ask more questions.

26th Sep 2011 19:18 UTCHolger Klapproth

It looks like this thread is dormant.


Maybe some people would like to join and revive it....



Grube Gottesehre (Urberg) had some really lovely yellow fluorites


http://www.mindat.org/photo-336087.html
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Fluorite Gottesehre Mine, Urberg, 8x5 cm



and Grube Tannenboden (Wieden) had some really big fluorites. The smaller ones were usally a lot less corroded...


http://www.mindat.org/photo-335474.html


If this thread gets revived... I have plenty of black forest material I can photograph and now I also have a much better camera...


It would be a shame if the lovely German fluorites stay as neglected...

26th Sep 2011 20:42 UTCRoger Lang Manager

Holger,

i would gladly join in but i have to finish german pyromorphites first and also pseudomalachite (which i will try to do so during long winter nights). Some people who wanted to contribute to the german pyros also went quite quiet ;-) .. i am still waiting for the Schauinsland texts and for the Saxony pyro entries. The remaining Rhineland-Palatinate pyros are dealt with quite quickly. If i find time i´ll help with the german fluos of course

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Juchem Quarry



Cheers

Roger


P.S. just noticed Rock already had that fluo ...

26th Sep 2011 20:47 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

Holger, your help would be very much appreciated!! It is indeed, like you say, about time that the German Fluorite article takes off again.

What you can do is to make photos of your Fluorites, add them to Mindat, and post the links to the photographs, together with information you have concerning the specimens and their localities, here in this topic.

When you or someone else would like to step up and take the lead in the further development of the German Fluorites, please let us know, so we can explain the ins and outs of composing an article.

27th Sep 2011 14:03 UTCRock Currier Expert

I have done a little work on the German Fluorite article and have some more to to. In the next session I will finish tweaking the images and add in many of the suggestions made about it above. Pictures are nice and we can use better ones if you can provide them, but what we really need is commentary about the localities and the fluorite specimens they produce.

27th Sep 2011 22:56 UTCHolger Klapproth

Just saw the updates - great job !


Taking your hint, I will focus on some information on Germany fluorite locations in the next weeks. As I live in Freiburg (that is Freiburg in Breisgau) most of my literature is focused on Black Forest minerals. There is little I can little contribute to fluorites from Saxony.

27th Sep 2011 23:14 UTCRock Currier Expert

Sebastian Möller


I have been working a little bit on the German Fluorite article, but it really needs someone like you to take it in hand. Would you be inclined to do that? I have started to work on the additions you have suggested, but it is going to take a lot of careful work and selecting of additional images. More important than that, you have much more knowledge than I do about the individual mines and could write the descriptions and comments that go beneath the images.

28th Sep 2011 18:34 UTCHolger Klapproth

Fluorite Location:


Artenberg Quarry, Steinach, Black Forest


Quartz-Calcite veins in gneiss rock. This was the best location for large fluorite octahedrons in the whole black forest. Green crystals of up to 10 cm have been found there, sitting on white calcite and looking very very attractive. Smaller crystals in blue and grey were also found, but green was the predominant color. These fluorites also have another nice feature - they fluoresce quite well. Most other black forest fluorites exhibit a rather dull fluorescence. Also a lot of the crystals have a rather "etched" looking surface composed of little fluorite cubes. Other associated minerals were quartz, pyrite, chalcopyrite and other sulfides. Though the quarry is still active there has been no fluorite find for quite some time as the part of the quarry with the fluorite mineralization is currently not in use. When the fluorites were found some local collectors used to claim the best spots and tried to keep other people away - even by threat of violence. Good calcite crystals and some of the associated ore mineralization can still be found. Permission of access is required. Since the "Naturkundemuseum Freiburg" was changed to the "Naturmuseum" and the mineral collection display there was sacrificed almost completely (shame on them) the only place I know to display Artenberg Fluorites is the Minerlienmuseum in Wolfach, near the famous Clara mine.

28th Sep 2011 19:16 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

Thanks very much for your good write up on the Artenberg Quarry. I have included that locality now in the Best Minerals-Germany article and given yu credit for them. This is an example of our image gallery being almost entirely empty of good pictures of fluorite specimens from this locality and that was undoubtedly why it was not included in the first place. I have put in one picture of a fluorite from there, but it is pretty ratty compared to some of the specimens you describe. If you could take a picture of a few decent ones from this quarry and post them to the mindat gallery I would be more than pleased to include them in the article.


If you can further direct me to other deficiencies in the article and do write ups about some of the other fluorite localities I would be glad to include your comments on them.

29th Sep 2011 17:19 UTCHolger Klapproth

Rock,


it is my pleasure, here are the pictures of the two Artenberg specimens I have here in Freiburg. The lighter green color is a bit difficult to catch.

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Fluorite Artenberg, 12x8 cm


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Fluorite Artenberg, 10x8 cm

30th Sep 2011 12:27 UTCHolger Klapproth

More Fluorite fun !


Teufelsgrund Mine, Münstertal, Schwarzwald


Teufelsgrund ("Devils Ground" ) is an abandoned Silver/Fluorite Mine in the southern Black Forest. The mine exploited several mineralized veins, with Schindler vein and Teufelsgrund vein maybe being the most important ones. The oldest record of mining on these veins is from 1512 ! - but carbon dating of a peace of charcoal fould in one of the workings reveled that mining started a lot earlier - the piece was dated to around the year 950. The mine closed in 1958 due to low Fluorite prices. It was reopened as a visitors mine some years ago and is well worth visiting. The Fluorites from this mine are really amazing. Starting with cubes and extra faces on the edges the crystals "transform" to rhombic dodecahedrons, hexakis octahedrons to almost spherical structures with 282 faces (see Extra Lapis 4, Fluorite p. 72ff.). Whereas cubic crystals could reach the size of 5 cm and more the more complex crystals are rather small (mms) but make out he special magic of these pieces. Especially water clear hexakis octahedrons growing on marcasite are very famous and can be found in several museum collections. Though these crystals are tiny they can still be found on the old dumps - and is worth digging for them. The larger crystals are quite often pinkish to purple but other colors were also reported. The smaller, water clear crystals mostly have no color at all.

After its closure the mine was the used by mineral collectors to collect very beautiful specimens. This even included the use of explosives - and a really nasty accident happened. Now this is the story how I was told it: Two guys had themselves locked in underground and put some charges in place. As they did not explode as expected one of these guys went to have a look and got hit by the blast. He barely survived and was seriously wounded. Now as they were locked in the only way out was use the rest of the explosives to blast the entrance door open. They made it and the wounded person survived though he lost some fingers and had his eyes damaged. As dealing with explosives and damaging other peoples property is a serious offense these guys also faced criminal charges - but the court showed mercy and the verdict was rather mild.


Now we need some good close-ups of hexakis octahedrons and such like. I hope I can get some good ones in the near future.




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Fluorite Münstertal, 9x5 cm

3rd Oct 2011 03:52 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

OK, thanks, Iv'e got your first two images in the article. I sure wish one or more of you guys would step up and take this job in hand. As an American trying to do an article on German Fluorites I feel like a fish out of water. Ill keep hacking away at it, but it would be much better if someone who really knows something about German Fluorites would take the lead in this.

3rd Oct 2011 04:55 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

That is a really good write up on the Teufelsgrund Mine. I have added your image and the text almost exactly as you gave it. Keep the good stuff coming. Perhaps this article will not look so bad after all.

3rd Oct 2011 08:24 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

Super!, Danke Holger, für deine Hilfe.

10th Oct 2011 10:23 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hi all,


I will add more stories and pictures by the end of the month. In the next two weeks It is a bit difficult for me to add more data. But there is "Tannenboden Mine" where big Fluorites were recovered in post mining activities and last not least "Anton / Wieden" a mine connected to Tannenboden.


I am also waiting for some local collector friends to add some pictures of the complex crystals from "Teufelsgrund". These are small but really amazing.


Glück auf



Holger

10th Oct 2011 12:38 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

Ill look forward to getting the pictures.

23rd Oct 2011 18:00 UTCHolger Klapproth

More about German Fluorites....



Tannenboden Mine, Wieden, Black Forest


Tannenboden Mine used to be one of the most visited mines for fluorite collecting after the commercial operations closed down in the 70s.The mine is not very old, mining on the Tannenboden vein started in 1937 but only when the Baryte and Fluorite deposits in near Grube Anton were almost exhausted Tannenboden Mine was properly worked. The mine was productive in the times from 1949 to 1974. The mine produced silver, lead and zinc minerals, too but is most famous for its big green Fluorites. After its closure local mineral collectors opened the gate to the main adit and entered the mine for specimen hunting, Very good fluorites were obtained during that time. When I came to Freiburg in 1997 local mineral collectors took me to a trip to the mine through a different entry - the foxhole. A little digging to reach the top level of the mine through a muddy and wet entrance. Going down to the adit meant climbing down wooden ladders which were dripping wet with mine water (to keep the wood fresh). I was cold and wet at the time I reached that level and did not really find that much (a few nice fluorites...). But being new to underground collecting I had the wrong equipment and the wrong expectations. A few weeks later I was asked why the hell I did not enter through the main door... . That was indeed a lot easier. It all ended when one stupid bloke found a huge and ugly Fluorite aggregate underground and used a saw to cut some bars from that door away to get the specimen out. Then it was too obvious and the mine entrance got secured properly. And the "foxhole" got closed, too. Now is is almost impossible to get access to the mine - even for scientific reasons due to "insurance issues" and such stuff. So instead of getting cold wet and dirty on a friday night looking through the leftovers of 30 years of underground collecting I just bought some nice Fluorite specimens. Fluorites in a light green color with several cm edge length were quite common. Larger crystals would be less clear and most often badly etched and / or covered with iron oxides etc. Crystals with more than 20 cm edge length were recovered though I must say that the really big ones were too ugly to even go into the garden.

2nd Nov 2011 19:07 UTCHolger Klapproth

As promised - more pictures of Fluorites of the Black Forest. This one is a really nice big crystal from Tannenboden Mine - with the typical coverage of Baryte.


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Fluorite Tannenboden, 11x9 cm

2nd Nov 2011 21:15 UTCUwe Ludwig

Hello Rock Currier,


the location of the first picture of the fluorites of Saxony is so not correct. Euba is a village at the suburbs of Chemnitz and belongs not to Frankenberg. The label should be Saxony, Euba, Wachtelberg.


Uwe Ludwig

2nd Nov 2011 21:21 UTCUwe Ludwig

I can add pictures of fluorite specimens of Schneeberg, Zobes, Zschopau (all Saxony) which locations are not yet part of the gallery.


However, how to load the pictures? A short advise would be wellcome.


Uwe Ludwig

2nd Nov 2011 21:47 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hallo Uwe,


this is rather simple:


you need to add the following information:


*pic id=421896 width=700 float=centre* Fluorite Tannenboden, 11x9 cm


and you must change the exchange the two * with < and >. If the< > are in I cannot show the text but the picture would be displayed instead.


Then the number must be changed to the number of your picture and the description must be adapted.... the width can be changed also if you want to add a large or smaller pic.



I hope that helps



Glück auf



Holger

3rd Nov 2011 12:01 UTCUwe Ludwig

Thanks Holger for your information.


However, either I am too dopy or I did not understand what you wrote. I was not successfull to add my pictures this way.


Anyway, there are enough nice fluorites. No need to add my pictures, too.


Uwe Ludwig

4th Nov 2011 07:20 UTCRock Currier Expert

Uwe,

Click on this link: How to upload mineral pictures to Mindat.

As you upload them, come back to this forum and give me the image number or a link to the images so I can look them over. Ill look forward to your pictures.


If you want to know how to place images in these fields providing the images are already in the mindat database read over this link.



Rock

4th Nov 2011 11:49 UTCUwe Ludwig

Thank you Rock, it happend!


Further pictures will follow up.


Uwe Ludwig

22nd Jan 2012 14:29 UTCHolger Klapproth

More Fluorites....



one more Fluorite to start for the New Year. Blue Fluorite from the Black Forest Location Fahl (Todtnau). This is a specimen from an old collection where the label is not helpful - just stating Fahl. Most likely this is from St. Anna mine but the information on the mines and veins there is not very good. Still a very beautiful specimen that has a lovely blue color. As these specimens may loose their color if subjected to sunlight I rather keep it in a dark drawer.


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Fluorite Todtnau-Fahl, 4x3 cm

22nd Jan 2012 21:29 UTCHolger Klapproth

one more little thing for tonight



A really nice yellow Fluorite from Leopold Adit in Münstertal. The mine was reopened in 1957 to prospect for Fluorite. Other workings of that mine date back to the middle ages and were at least partially produced by fire setting. Fluorite crystals with an edge length of more than 40 cm were reported, but these crystals are etched on their faces and may not look very nice at all.



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Fluorite Leopold adit, Münstertal 14x6 cm

22nd Jan 2012 22:04 UTCHolger Klapproth

as my girlfriend is still busy preparing for her seminar tomorrow... one more thing



Fluorite from Riesenwald Quarry (or maybe the mine next to the quarry), Hinterohlsbach, near Gengenbach - in the central Black Forest. This was one of the first locations I ever visited as a very young man. And did not find much. When I went there 20 years or so later with some local collectors they dug there a lot and found some strangely etched Fluorites. I was not to keen collecting these and just removed some rocks when they were finished and found a nice little vug full of purple cubes. Enough to make my day. Then the locals told me that there is a mine next to the (disused) quarry from there the better fluorites came. They even showed me the the entrance and how to open the gate that locks it. But we had no hard hats and lamps with us so we went home with our lucky findings. The specimen here is from an old Fluorite collection that was sold some years ago. It is described as a "Clara Mine" specimen in the Extra Lapis Fluorite. But the hydromuscovite matrix and the crystals clearly prove that this is from "Ohlsbach". To be sure I also checked this with the author of that article who happens to live just a few hundred meters down the road.


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Fluorite Ohlsbach, 8x5 cm

3rd Feb 2012 20:26 UTCHolger Klapproth

Another nice specimen from the Black Forest: Grey-blue Fluorite from Hesselbach Mine. The mine was recently visited by collectors who found some really good blue and purple-blue Fluorites underground.



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Fluorite Hesselbach, 8x5 cm

4th Feb 2012 06:04 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

That's a decent specimen and as soon as the Tucson show is over and I can find the time, Ill put it into the article. Can you tell us something about the mine, geology, history, associated minerals, how many specimens were found?

4th Feb 2012 12:02 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hi Rock,


enjoy Tucson - Germany is hit by a spell of Siberian cold and the ground is frozen rock hard. But that gives me a bit of time to do some literature work:


Hesselbach Mine:

Fluorite/Baryte vein at the border of Granite and Rotliegendes of about 1.5 m width. The vein is almost void of ore minerals except some iron minerals. Very good Fluorites with cube sizes up to 20 cms are known, colors were pink, blue/purple and green. Some Fuorite crystal were so clear that they could be used for optical purposes. There was some ancient mining in the area and on the vein. Modern mining reopened the mine around 1900 and operated the mine successfully till 1959 when low prices for Fluorite forced it to close again. While in operation the mine produced very good specimens of Fluorite and Baryte. For the Fluorite crystals combinations of octahedrons and codes were recorded. To find new mineral veins the miners in Hesselbach used dowsing even in modern times. Needless to say they did identify baryte veins in places where drilling/mining was not able to confirm their location. Minerals from Hesselbach were sold to famous dealers such as Dr. Krantz in Bonn and Maucher in Munich. Most specimens on the market nowadays come from later specimen mining at times when the mine was still accessible.

5th Feb 2012 05:35 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

Excellent, just the kind of information we need on all our localities.

5th Feb 2012 13:34 UTCJoseph Polityka Expert

Rock,


I don't know if this specimen is worthy but it is from the Frieberg District, Erzgeberge, Saxony, Germany. It came out of an old collection with that locality information. The fluorite is associated with white quartz and is 7cm by 8cm in size.




Best,


Joe Polityka

5th Feb 2012 15:53 UTCBecky Coulson 🌟 Expert

Dear Rock, lovely article. Under the section for Zehntausend Ritter Mine, there are 2 identical photos of purple Fluorite by R. Lang - one says 4.5cm and the other says it's 6 cm. Thank you for all the work. Becky

5th Feb 2012 16:30 UTCRock Currier Expert

Nice specimen, perhaps one of our German guys can put a better locality to the specimen.

5th Feb 2012 16:31 UTCRock Currier Expert

Becky,

After Tucson, Ill look into this and try and find out which is which.

5th Feb 2012 19:02 UTCLeon Hupperichs Expert

Joseph, this looks like a specimen from the Segen Gottes Mine, Gersdorf, Freiberg District.

A fine example from this locality.

5th Feb 2012 21:11 UTCUwe Ludwig

Really hard to determine exactly from which Saxonian mining field this specimen came. Freiberg is possible. Such yellow crystalls came also from Gersdorf. The fluorites of the Annaberg district (10000 Ritter) have mostly a darker colour. However I found similar fluorites also with quartz crystalls on the dump 139 in Lauta/Marienberg.


If you are not sure then make a picture of the back side but I think Freiberg may be true.


Uwe Ludwig

5th Feb 2012 23:35 UTCJoseph Polityka Expert

Thanks, Leon and Uwe,


The rear of the specimen has a $1.50 price tag next to the number 4305. It might have been a Foote specimen.


The matrix seems to be massive quartz with disseminated micro sulphides with interspersed fragments of bladed barite in some areas. There is a 1cm layer of light brown limestone attached to the back of the specimen.


Thank you and best wishes,


Joe

6th Feb 2012 18:34 UTCUwe Ludwig

The matrix confirms the Freiberg district compared with the other Saxonian localities.


Uwe Ludwig

6th Feb 2012 21:41 UTCAmir C. Akhavan Expert

http://www.mindat.org/photo-387918.html

This one or one of the child photos.

Why?


As far as I can see, it shows crystals with the very rare crystallographic form {731} , resulting in a scalenohedral shape, as described by

E. Preuss, H. Ziehr

Skalenoedrische Flußspatkristalle mit der Form (731) von der Grube Cäcilia/Nabburg. Zeitschrift für Kristallographie, 146, S. 131ff, 1977


See also Berthold Weber's Mineralienseite: http://www.berthold-weber.de/min.htm

for an explanation in German, specifically:

http://www.berthold-weber.de/w_skal.htm


The crystal drawings and photos speak for themselves.


The specimen on the Mindat photo is actually from the Preuss collection.

Unfortunately the only specimen on Mindat that shows this habit.

6th Feb 2012 22:44 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hi Joe,


I have a similar specimen in my collection with a label that states "Halsbrücke" (that is in the Freiberg mining diststrict). Unfortunately the mine is not stated.



Best Regards


Holger

8th Feb 2012 18:36 UTCHolger Klapproth

The mining area near Todtnau (Black Forest)



As the mines and ore veins of this formerly very important mining area (silver in the middle ages and fluorite in modern times) are not well described in mindat I will try to add some data here. Even the standard literature is of not much help as it does not well represent the old mining and some information my have been lost over the centuries - Todtnau had at least two major fires that reduced the mining city to a village. Mining in Todtnau is old - the oldest known citation of Todtnau as "Totenuova" is from 1025. Mining is recorded from 13th century as the taxes have been payed to the monastery St. Blasien (1247). The settlement was raised to city status in 1283. At the beginning of 14th century there were around 300 working miners reported. The location of most of the old mines is not known, at least not by name. With the exception of the mine "Zur Schindelhalde" near Aftersteg. The big earthquake of Basel in 1356, which destroyed much of Basel also did great damage to the mining area in Todtnau, but it seems that mining industry recovered very quickly. The most important old mine in the area was the "Grube zum Gauch", with had a big waterwheel. Like in most other Black Forest mining areas mining did not do well in 16th century and ceased due to exhausted ore reserves and the 30 years war in 17th century. There was little mining in 18th or 19th century and only elevated interest in Fluorite lead to renaissance of the mining area in early 20th century. The second half of the 20th century was not a good one for the mines as Fluorite prices were falling and mining was becoming more expensive. The last mine in that area was closed in 1974. Mining there was always a bit difficult as the mines were in a region and often snow forced the mining activities to rest over winter.


Important mines were


Grube "zum Gauch" (Todtnauberg, 14th century)


Grube Maus


Grube St. Anna (Grube Fahl)


Tholusbrunnen (Silberberg)


Grube Baumhalde (Silberberg)


Kernerloch (Silberberg)


Grube Brandenberg: most fluorite specimens from the area are from this mine


Grube Rotenbach


Grube Liesbühl



The most common minerals from this mining area are Fluorite, Calcite,Pyromorphite, Galenite, Chalcopyrite and Baryte.

8th Feb 2012 23:45 UTCJoseph Polityka Expert

Holger,


Thank you for the information. Your outline of the local history is very interesting. Do you have a photo of your fluorite?


Best,


Joe

9th Feb 2012 08:48 UTCHolger Klapproth

Joe,


I will make a picture of that specimen an post it in the next days and post it here.


Best Regards



Holger

10th Feb 2012 16:28 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hi Joe,



here is the picture, difficult to photograph.



Best Regards



Holger


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Fluorite Halsbrücke, 7x6 cm

16th Feb 2012 19:58 UTCHolger Klapproth

More Fluorites from Black Forest



This time a rather rare locality: Grube Anton / Wieden. There is a lot of Tannenboden Mine stuff on the market but very little good material from Anton. This one I bought a few years ago from a local mineral dealer who specialices in buying old collection and selling the better pieces on mineral shows. I now live in Black Forest since 1997, but this is the first good specimen from that mine I was able to get my hands on. The coating with pyrite is a bit unusual for Wieden, but could be confirmed by comparison with similar specimens. A pity these mines are closed now. Imagine all the wonderful specimens that came out there in the 1950s and 60s.

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Fluorite, Anton Mine, Wieden, 10x9 cm

16th Feb 2012 23:32 UTCJoseph Polityka Expert

Holger,


Very nice specimens. The yellow fluorite looks very similar to the one in my collection.


Thank you,


Joe

17th Feb 2012 05:30 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holgar,

That's a nice piece and I have placed it in Best Minerals, Fluorite, Germany and included what you said about it.

18th Feb 2012 23:45 UTCHolger Klapproth

One more little thing....


Fluorite from Segen Gottes Mine, Schnellingen. Very good specimen for that location. The mine is an ancient silver mine that was last active in the 18th century and is now a visitors mine. The old men were after silver rich galenite. Unusually for such an old abandoned mine some really good fluorites were found there. The larger crystals are mostly cubes where the smaller ones can show more complex crystal structures, Some minerals were found at the dump in front of the mine entrance, but this one looks definitely like an underground specimen.


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Fluorite, Segen Gottes Mine, Schnellingen, 11x11x9 cm

20th Feb 2012 01:36 UTCRock Currier Expert

Good picture,

Added

19th Mar 2012 19:31 UTCHolger Klapproth

One more Fluorite...



this time from Brandenberg Mine, Todtnau. Very good specimen - there were larger ones host most the ones I know are rather grayish. This one, though covered by Quartz, has a nice blue color in daylight - an turns a bit grayish in artificial light. Used a daylight lamp to take that picture. No color enhancement with photoshop !.

07784230014951925316706.jpg
Fluorite Brandenberg, 4,5x3 cm

19th Mar 2012 20:20 UTCRock Currier Expert

We generally add only image of complete specimens to the best minerals articles. Sometimes we will also include a closeup of the specimen next to the picture showing the entire specimen.

22nd Mar 2012 22:02 UTCHolger Klapproth

mea culpa - here is the full view.


I was so happy when I got this specimen at the mineral show in Heidelberg last week that I posted it without thinking further....

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Fluorite Brandenberg, 12x5x4 cm

14th May 2012 11:37 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi all,


Fantastic article, thanks to all contributors.


This is maybe not the right place to post this question but as it is about a German fluorite, I can't be completely wrong either.


Yesterday I posted a specimen I have since 1983 from the Bleihilfe mine.



By looking at other specimens of this kind, I saw that 2 localities are given , the Samuelspat vein or the Isaac Spathgang.


You probably all know that I like very much the exact locality and history of the specimens I collect. So if someone have a better locality than just Bleihilfe or can tell me which one of the veins it comes from, I would greatly appreciate.


Thank you in advance for any comment.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

14th May 2012 14:19 UTCLeon Hupperichs Expert

Hi Paul,


I have a very similar specimen, several pictures of it are in the gallery for the Beihilfe Mine, and it's labeled as being from the Samuelspat vein.


Best Regards,

Leon.

15th May 2012 20:23 UTCThomas Uhlig Expert

I agree with Leon. One of the specimens of this material in my collection came with a label, stating that the specimen comes from: 300m level, Samuelspat vein, Beihilfe Mine, Halsbrücke.


With best regards,


Thomas

26th May 2012 03:06 UTCPeter Haas

http://www.mindat.org/photo-178764.html


I have some doubts on the locality of this specimen. Looks like a Weardale fluorite to me.

2nd Jul 2012 18:53 UTCHolger Klapproth

Peter,



I agree with your doubts, but there were similar specimens from Teufelsgrund. Maybe the best way to check would be to look at the fluorescence. Weardale Fluorite fluoresces a lot - the Black Forest ones only a little.

3rd Jul 2012 11:40 UTCRock Currier Expert

Paul and others,

Thanks for the help and suggestions. I have made some updates and fixes in the article. I still need someone to write an introduction to German fluorite specimens.

4th Jul 2012 19:38 UTCHolger Klapproth

Hello Rock,


If this has time till after my summer vacation I would gladly take that job. At the end of the summer term my life is rather busy as I have some teaching duties next to my normal job.


Best Regards



Holger

4th Jul 2012 20:54 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

Ill look forward to see what you write about German fluorite specimens. If you think you can add information about any of the fluorite localities we have in the article, please feel free to write about them as well. If you wish, I can help smooth out any of the English.

7th Jul 2012 11:32 UTCHolger Klapproth

Rock,


your help with smoothing out my English is most appreciated.

4th Nov 2012 19:45 UTCHolger Klapproth

One more Black Forest specimen. Fluorite "balls" from Teufelsgrund Mine / Münstertal. The different crystal shapes make this mine one of the most interesting for Fluorite collectors. As this is now a visitors mine there is only old material from the dumps left to search.The smaller Fluorite crystals are mostly hexakisoctahedrons.



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Fluorite Teufelsgrund, 7x5 cm

4th Nov 2012 21:07 UTCRock Currier Expert

Holger,

That one is good enough. I have added it to the article.
 
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