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PhotosWhich is the scotlandite and which is the susannite?

1st Aug 2023 03:41 UTCDemetrius Pohl Expert

I presume the blue-green mineral is the caledonite but for those of us that haven't seen specimens of the minerals in question telling which is which becomes ambiguous. The scotlandite and susannite photos are not much help as the ambiguity in identification has propogated to those page also.

1st Aug 2023 04:53 UTCDale Foster Manager

Message sent to uploader in relation to this view and the other you highlighted.

1st Aug 2023 16:47 UTCJason B. Smith Expert

I think it's quite clear that the tan sprays are the scotlandite based off Steve's other photos of the same mineral, and he knows his stuff when it comes to these lead secondaries. He probably just forgot to include the caption in this case.

1st Aug 2023 18:42 UTCDemetrius Pohl Expert

It may be that the poster is extraordinarily knowledgeable about this location and its minerals but there are many more on Mindat who don't have a clue. Ambiguity is not a friend in a database.

4th Aug 2023 07:14 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

Steve has added a caption to this photo.

Since the issue regarding this photo has been resolved, I'm going to close this thread.

1st Aug 2023 21:33 UTCMartin Rich Expert

In such cases it would be good to use the annotation tool!

2nd Aug 2023 04:42 UTCHerwig Pelckmans

Dear Dale,
This thread has had a turbulent past. Yesterday morning it was closed, but after a while was reopened again.
The unfortunate side effect of all this, is that I had written a detailed caption for the above photo, and published that caption in the other thread (on the other photo of Steve), since at that time, that other thread had not been closed yet. I now see that the other thread no longer has my message: https://www.mindat.org/mesg-630337.html

In short: the detailed caption I had written for the above photo, and that took me quite a while to write, is gone, since it is no longer available in any of both threads.  
=> So, can you add the message (that has the caption) I wrote yesterday morning, to this thread, please? That would be very kind of you.
Cheers, Herwig

2nd Aug 2023 05:52 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Manager

It's not your job to be writing captions for other people... you can write captions for your own photos.

It is expected that when uploaders submit a photo with multiple minerals, that the identified minerals should be differentiated, either in the caption or as photo annotations; this is prescribed in the upload instructions for photos intended to be in the public galleries. In this case the minerals weren't differentiated, and the issue has been raised with the person who submitted the photo. If after a reasonable amount of time the uploader hasn't responded, it's possible the photo will be moved from the public galleries to a user-only gallery until a resolution is reached.

While managers and photo experts may occasionally make minor edits on already-existing photo captions (e.g. last week it was observed someone had accidentally written "olivine" when they clearly intended "olivenite" on a particular photo caption), it is not the job of managers or photo experts to be deriving new captions for photos; this is the uploaders' responsibility. Despite the rare mineralogy and good photo composition, I personally would not have approved this photo, since again it is explicit in our specimen upload rules that multiple minerals need to be differentiated; whoever approved the photo apparently opted to put less weight on that directive and instead decided to emphasize other criteria instead.

2nd Aug 2023 06:13 UTCDale Foster Manager

Dear Herwig,

For the reason outlined above by Frank, my answer is also no.

It is the sole responsibility of the person submitting the photo to appropriately caption it.

As Frank also points out, as managers we can and do make minor edits, for instance spelling mistakes as and when they are observed.

I do completely agree that all uploaded photographs should include some form of caption to inform viewers or what or why a specimen or indeed other image is significant enough to upload so any viewer can appreciate it whether they are a novice or highly experienced individual.

4th Aug 2023 04:35 UTCHerwig Pelckmans

Interesting: another mineral (leadhillite) was added to the minerals visible in this photo
(after August 2) . It is the colorless, glassy, tabular looking thing just to the right of the blue-green caledonites (that are in the upper left corner).

Identifying the different minerals in this photo was (and still is) not easy: before leadhillite was mentioned for this photo (before August 3), I assumed the leadhillite to be susannite (and if my description of this photo had not been deleted or had been restored (as requested above), everyone could have learned from my mistake).

IMHO for photos like this one, where it is quite hard to figure out which mineral is which, even with the description added recently, the use of arrows to point towards the different minerals in the photo is indispensable. Only that way the viewer of the photo would be 100% sure of what (s)he is looking at.
Cheers, Herwig
 
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