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Identity Helpargillite or phyllite

5th Jul 2017 17:21 UTCDaniel Bennett OP
the large rock in the center of picture I believe is phyllite. can any one confirm. it has wavy bands and a sheen that doesn't really show in the picture.
the rock to the right of the crystal. has banding.
end view showing texture.
after reading the description of phyllite it seems like an exact match. the sheen is quite noticeable in person. it seems pretty straight forward but I tend to mislead myself at times so all input is appreciated. I
let me know if more pictures are required.
the rock to the right of the crystal. has banding.
end view showing texture.
after reading the description of phyllite it seems like an exact match. the sheen is quite noticeable in person. it seems pretty straight forward but I tend to mislead myself at times so all input is appreciated. I
let me know if more pictures are required.
5th Jul 2017 17:52 UTCReiner Mielke Expert
Looks like a phyllite to me. Argillite does not have a good cleavage.

6th Jul 2017 00:52 UTCDonald B Peck Expert
I agree.
6th Jul 2017 01:49 UTCGregg Little 🌟
The general gradation with heat and/or pressure is mudstone/argillite to shale/pelite to slate to phyllite. With the heat and pressure comes an orientation of plately minerals (mica, chlorite ) as well as alteration to new minerals, like the formation of sericite and quartz. The sheen observed is from the platy mineral orientation which is usually too fine to see without magnification. The next stop in the increasing metamorphism is a schist.
Both shale and phyllite exhibit cleavage or foliation but in shale it is due to bedding (compaction and general orientation of detrital clay minerals) and in phyllite it is due to the oriented platy minerals from heat and pressure.
Both shale and phyllite exhibit cleavage or foliation but in shale it is due to bedding (compaction and general orientation of detrital clay minerals) and in phyllite it is due to the oriented platy minerals from heat and pressure.
6th Jul 2017 01:55 UTCGregg Little 🌟
Also interesting are the inclusions (dark grey) in the phyllite in the bottom picture. Could they be siliceous nodules? This would indicate the possible sedimentary origin and parent rock of the phyllite.

6th Jul 2017 14:32 UTCDaniel Bennett OP
ok. thanks you guys.
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