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GeneralWhat's your least favourite mineral name, and why?

11th Aug 2012 11:15 UTCJolyon Ralph 🌟 Founder OP

We've done favourite mineral names before, so no need to repeat that here. But what is your LEAST favourite mineral name?


Mine has to be nosean. It sounds more like a nasal spray than a mineral.



Jolyon

11th Aug 2012 13:08 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

Eurekadumpite. How totally not creative can it be...

25th Aug 2024 13:29 UTCTony Nikischer 🌟 Manager

The original suggested name from the authors (mtself included) was "dumpite". But the name had other connotations (in Russian as well, as our senior author suggested), so the default name of eurekadumpite was used and approved.

25th Aug 2024 16:01 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Expert

One of the worst mineral names... every time I see the name I immediately think, that's what one would exclaim with joyful relief after an extended bout of constipation. I'm not sure "dumpite" alone would have been much better... sounds like a synonym for "leaverite".

11th Aug 2012 13:11 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

Parisite - try telling someone you found parasite

11th Aug 2012 13:11 UTCTimothy Greenland

Its a very fluctuating anti-preference - I was repelled by melanophlogite at first, but have grown to have a fond spot for its weirdness. Today's POTD - Wodginite - sounds fat and flabby, but then you look at the specimen and think "Wow, I just can't dislike that!".


Incidentally, I think of nosean as "no see 'um, no hear 'um, but it's got to be in there somewhere..."


Cheers


Tim

11th Aug 2012 13:58 UTCUwe Ludwig

Blödite - because "blöd" is the German word for dopey or stupid.


Uwe Ludwig

11th Aug 2012 14:11 UTCMartin Rich Expert

My favourites:

Ferri-clinoferroholmquistite

Ferri-ferrotschermakite

Fluoro-alumino-magnesiotaramite

Fluoro-potassic-magnesio-arfvedsonite :-S


Congratulations to the IMA!

11th Aug 2012 14:59 UTCSteven Kuitems Expert

Epidote-Pb, because it is so disrespectful of the original historic intent to honnor Mr. Hancock and disrespectful of the science. No new chemistry, structure or valid rational reason to change the original name of hancockite. On top of that it ignores the consistent strontium content. It has now been relegated to the mundaine in name.


Steve.

11th Aug 2012 15:56 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

wad


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11th Aug 2012 17:09 UTCAlex Homenuke 🌟 Expert

"Baryte"

11th Aug 2012 17:27 UTCStephanie Martin

Well, my least favourite is not really a mineral, but rather an adjective. Everytime I hear "hematoid" quartz I can't help but laugh. My association memories think back to the old Frank Zappa tune "Talk about your hematoids, baby! (mud shark!). Not the best marketing term in my opinion.


cheers,

stephanie :-)

11th Aug 2012 17:44 UTCSteve Hardinger

Anything the metaphysical people make up.

11th Aug 2012 19:24 UTCRoberto Bosi

I think...CIANCIULLIITE. Leonarda Cianciulli was an italian serial killer in the 40's of the XX century. She killed three old women and cutted their bodies, then she made soap with fat and cakes with blood. Everything was finally sold to friends. They say that all the...production was of a good quality.:-(


NB: Please notice that Cianciulliite was named after JOHN Cianciulli, late lamented and esteemed mineralogist. Absolutely there's no relations with Leonarda!

11th Aug 2012 23:35 UTCBart Cannon

I think that clino-jimthompsonite was the beginning of the end. No disrepect to Jim Thompson. He didn't name it.


I have many pounds of Snowbird parisites. I've mentioned this in the past, but they actually look like some kind mega-parasite, but small enough to get into your ear canal, and should be re-named "parasite".


Anyone old enough to remember the episode of "One Step Beyond" where a guy's mineral collection became alive and able to move about his house at night, and the specimens killed him while he slept ? A chunk of sharp edged obsidian movin right at ya !!


If I was kept in a little box in a drawer or a hot display case for 30 years or more, and had never even been fed a cheet-o crumb, I'd do the same thing to my warden / curator.


Bart

11th Aug 2012 23:51 UTCDan R. Lynch

Mr. Hardinger said mine before I got the chance: everything metaphysical folks dream up.


But if I had to pick one, I'd choose hauyne. No disrespect to the man behind the name, but I just always hated it as a mineral name. Nevermind the fact that I've never known how to pronounce it correctly...

12th Aug 2012 03:43 UTCAJMI

I dislike the name "apatite" when it's pronounced exactly the same as the word "appetite" (the desire to eat food).


I prefer to pronouncing it as "ah-PAT-ite" to differentiate the two words.


I think pronouncing it as such clears up a lot of confusion. Especially when someone says something like, "I have a big apatite." or asks "What do you have an appetite for?" or "Hey man, where did your appetite go!?" :-S

13th Aug 2012 17:46 UTCJason Evans

AJMI Wrote:

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> I dislike the name "apatite" when it's pronounced

> exactly the same as the word "appetite" (the

> desire to eat food).

>

> I prefer to pronouncing it as "ah-PAT-ite" to

> differentiate the two words.

>

> I think pronouncing it as such clears up a lot of

> confusion. Especially when someone says something

> like, "I have a big apatite." or asks "What do you

> have an appetite for?" or "Hey man, where did your

> appetite go!?" :-S


I've lost my apatite.

My least favourite mineral name is Howardevansite, as that is my dads name and I am jealous he has a mineral named after him and i dont , and he's not even interested in minerals. (OK, its named after a different Howard Evans, but it's still not fair!)

13th Aug 2012 20:03 UTCEvan Johnson 🌟

To second and third some points here:

a.) metaphysical nonsense

b.) anything systematic, systematics are implicit and using them removes an opportunity to honour someone or some place or be creative

b.2.) indeed, alas, Hancockite

c.) if I had to choose it'd be- can't choose one-the "smectite" group. Sorry fans. It sounds dissonant and what it generally looks like.

EDIT: punctuation

13th Aug 2012 21:29 UTCKnut Eldjarn 🌟 Manager

"Eveite" - because giving this name to the Mn-analoge of Adamite seems to imply a biblical origin of both these names - even if Adamite was named 150 years ago after the French Mineralogist Gilbert-Joseph Adam.

13th Aug 2012 21:47 UTCAlfredo Petrov 🌟 Manager

Paul Moore was rather "playful" in his choice of mineral names, to say the least. Interesting that Mindat was able to find a picture of the person this mineral was named after :-S

I see that Gilbert-Joseph Adam is in the same picture too, or was Mrs. Adam playing around with someone else? ;-)

14th Aug 2012 03:05 UTCRalph S Bottrill 🌟 Manager

Oxyplumboroméite (never got what was wrong with bindheimite!), plus Oxyyttropyrochlore-(Y), Kenoplumbopyrochlore and most other new members of the pyrochlore group - you may as well just use the formulae! Plus most new amphibole names for the same reason. Yttrotantalite-(Y) and similar names always look silly. And there are quite a lot of minerals I could not pronounce nor spell either i suspect!)

15th Aug 2012 05:08 UTCDean Allum Expert

I can't decide which of these is worse:

oxykinoshitalite or orangite.

Nothing rhymes with either;-)

15th Aug 2012 05:23 UTCStephanie Martin

ROLF! :)-D

15th Aug 2012 07:50 UTCDavid Bruno

Childrenite, it just sounds wrong, why not Eosphorite (Fe)?

15th Aug 2012 17:21 UTCMichael Sharpe

I grew up calling it "barite". Any other spelling seems odd.


And Cummingtonite can have another meaning than a mineral from Cummington in western Massachusetts

21st Aug 2012 02:57 UTCRowan Lytle

podlesnoite. say it enough and you start to get annoyed.

21st Aug 2012 04:01 UTCDavid Garske

When Paul Moore named Eveite, it was because it was a derivative structure of Adamite (Eve was derived from Adam). He later tried to name a mineral similar to Overite as Underite, but IMA turned him down.

In general I don't like the big derivative names. Any mineral name that can't fit in a single line on my labels.

Dave

21st Aug 2012 05:50 UTCMichael Adamowicz Expert

Don't like pyrochlore. I will always will remember it as Betafite. Much easier. Most people who collect around Bancroft prefer Betafite too, sounds way better & Silver Crater from there had some of the best samples of the species. Pyrochlore sounds like a cleaning solution. Betafite has a much better ring to it.


Michael.

21st Aug 2012 06:55 UTCHarald Schillhammer Expert

Minrecordite - it's simply uncreative, even silly to derive a name from the abbreviation of a journal.

6th Sep 2012 12:02 UTCDan Fountain

Anthraxolite. It sounds like it's diseased.

But then again, I guess it's not really a mineral...

6th Sep 2012 13:27 UTCJasun D. McAvoy Expert

analcime


Mandy and I still get chuckles out of this one...


And I must say that I am still getting used to "baryte"

6th Sep 2012 15:49 UTCLefteris Rantos Expert

Yttrotungstite-(Ce), Lanthanite-(Nd) and the like... I find it completely inconsistent to have a Ce-dominant mineral with the prefix "Yttro-" in its name.


Lefteris.

6th Sep 2012 21:52 UTCWilliam C. van Laer Expert

Masutomilite....not because of the name itself, but because I've heard people pronounce it as: "Mouse-sue-toe-mil-ite" Mouse sue toe? Are they kidding?



Chris

6th Sep 2012 23:19 UTCŁukasz Kruszewski Expert

Daubreeite and daubreelite.............

7th Sep 2012 01:48 UTCDana Slaughter Expert

Asbolane---sounds like a hemorrhoid ointment!

7th Sep 2012 02:21 UTCKeith Wood

botryogen: sounds like a geriatric disorder

bauranoite: how is this pronounced? Even if you know how to say it it sounds stupid

selenojalpaite: makes my tongue limp back to my liquor cabinet

7th Sep 2012 03:04 UTCTom Trebisky

Without a doubt, Minrecordite -- what a train wreck!


After that I could choose from the mess of post-Tschernich zeolite names.

Actually all of the chemical names annoy me - of the style wazooite-Y and so forth.


I oscillate about Eurekadumpite -- It has a charm of its own that grows on me.

7th Sep 2012 03:07 UTCTom Trebisky

Dana Slaughter Wrote:

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> Asbolane---sounds like a hemorrhoid ointment!



I can't stop laughing ----- this is the best thing I have heard all week.

7th Sep 2012 05:26 UTCill

My blood just boiled when I saw cianciulliite, but then read further.



Cuspidine. I don't know why but I just don't like the name....

7th Sep 2012 08:44 UTCTimothy Greenland

Finally, I vote for Yuksporite - sounds like a nasty and persistant fungal infection


Cheers


Tim

7th Sep 2012 12:01 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

Petarasite. Would you like to know why? Look the attached photo.


So good mineral, and so unhappy name... :(

7th Sep 2012 14:30 UTCSpencer Ivan Mather

Any of the most stupid names that these so-called metaphysical people call ordinary minerals like quartz..!

7th Sep 2012 14:36 UTCAndrew Haighton

Can't wrap my head around Florkeite (td), another unappealing mineral name, but love the sound of Moolooite (tu)

7th Sep 2012 15:39 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

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Keith Wood Wrote:
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> bauranoite: how is this pronounced? Even if you know how to say it it sounds stupid


It pronounced as it written - ba-u-ran-o-it (not you but simple u, not ait but still it).

Quite clever name for barium uranate - Ba+U+O.


Timothy Greenland Wrote:
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> Finally, I vote for Yuksporite - sounds like a nasty and persistant fungal infection


Don't share your associations. Yukspor Mt is nice place, and I like it. By the way its translation from Saami means "mount with green gently slopes".

Yukspor is the rightmost mount.

Don't you have any problems with Tuperssuatsiaite pronuncation? Tuperssuatsiat bay also is nice place...

7th Sep 2012 16:52 UTCHarald Schillhammer Expert

Jasun D. McAvoy Wrote:

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> analcime

>

> Mandy and I still get chuckles out of this one...


LOL! Never had a closer look at the ambiguous meaning of this name before.

7th Sep 2012 17:33 UTCBeth Schaefer

hee, hee


Once I put a specimen of devillite next to some angelite and christianite - and all hellite broke loose! Shucks, no such thing as Hellite - Halite, maybe?

7th Sep 2012 17:42 UTCJim Sullivan

Cummingtonite-----that species name was the root of so many crass jokes in school, I developed a disdain for the mineral. It was named for the town in which it was discovered, Cummington, Massachusetts (in the 1850's, if I remember correctly) But when some of the 'dimmer bulbs' in class learned of that one, it turned into a long semester of ridiculously juvenile humor.

7th Sep 2012 17:58 UTCEverett Harrington Expert

Goethite......how many "R"s you see in that name? Pronounced...grrr TITE



really?


E

29th Sep 2012 11:45 UTCTimothy Greenland

Pavel, I meant no disrespect to the Yukspor mountain or the lovely region surrounding it - the comment was directed to the simple sound of the name in the English language - and associated slang - Yuk! Spore(s)!


I probably make a real mess of pronouncing "Tuperssuatsiaite " - but it doesn't sound like anything other than the place - which I can only regret never having seen.


Truly sorry if you were upset by my choice.


Cheers


Tim

18th Oct 2012 14:30 UTCTimothy Greenland

I have decided to change my choice to Hafnon - why? because I have none, of course


Bye


Tim

14th Jun 2013 04:36 UTCLeor Goldberg

Let me think..

14th Jun 2013 04:58 UTCHershel Friedman

Morion always struck me as a moronic name. Must have been named by a moron...


Maybe it was named by the same person who coined carbonatecyanotrichite.

14th Jun 2013 12:26 UTCAndy Lawton

Unusually for a Brit I dislike the name baryte, a halfway house between barytes & barite

14th Jun 2013 13:24 UTCReiner Mielke Expert

My least favorite is Haüyne, never sure how to say it and the name does not do the mineral justice.

14th Jun 2013 15:49 UTCLeor Goldberg

Mine would have to be protomanganoferroanthophyllite, just for the length of the name. It also happens to be one of my favorites for the same reason. It's confusing.

:-S

14th Jun 2013 15:51 UTCLeor Goldberg

Steve Hardinger Wrote:

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> Anything the metaphysical people make up.


Lol.

14th Jun 2013 16:37 UTCJamie Cheshire

Eurekadumpite, Minrecordite and Tsumcorite. How silly!


Am I the only person in the world who doesn't think cummingtonite is funny?

15th Jun 2013 04:02 UTCJim Bean 🌟

I'd have to pick Nosean

15th Jun 2013 12:32 UTCRock Currier Expert

The name that I am most irritated by is Pääkkönenite. I don't particularly dislike the name, but I have yet to find anyone who can tell me how to properly pronounce the damn thing.

24th Aug 2024 12:20 UTCAppel Bartelsen

I hate pääkkönenite too

15th Jun 2013 12:54 UTCPeter Andresen Expert

Rock, you need vodka to pronounce it :)-D

15th Jun 2013 16:11 UTCTimothy Greenland

Rock,

If you go to webmineral.com and look for the mineral on the alphabetical index, there is an icon that lets you download a recording of the 'right' way to pronounce the name in question. Unfortunately, they do not provide the vodka!!!


Today's anti-favourite name for me is oxyplumboroméite - darn it, I liked Bindheimite...


Cheers


Tim

15th Jun 2013 16:50 UTCBob Harman

Not a mineral, but a rock formation. In Germany I think.......the HORST SCHIST formation. If true as my geology major college roommate swore years ago, this would be my least favorite name. CHEERS...........BOB

15th Jun 2013 18:47 UTCDoug Daniels

The Horst Schist - heck, that would be one my FAVORITE rock unit names.....then again, I'm a geologist, and we tend to have warped (or is that folded?) senses of humor....

16th Jun 2013 00:52 UTCRalph S Bottrill 🌟 Manager

Most new amphibole and pyrochlores group names!

16th Jun 2013 03:02 UTCVolkmar Stingl

Horst schist? I'm also geologist, but there is no such formation known to me in Germany or other German speaking countries. I also don't understand, what's so funny with this name (my English is obviously too bad for this)? Could you explain to me?


Volkmar

16th Jun 2013 03:33 UTCEric Graff Expert

Jasun D. McAvoy Wrote:

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> analcime

>


Yeah. That one. Kind of like Uranus - you don't want to talk about either one in public.

16th Jun 2013 05:47 UTCDoug Daniels

Volkmar- It's a pun. "horst" sounds similar to "horse", "schist" sounds like something that comes out of one end of the horse. Some of us Americans have a warped sense of humor.

16th Jun 2013 07:05 UTCAlfredo Petrov 🌟 Manager

With regard to the pronunciation issue - can't always trust other peoples' pronunciation information. Sugilite is usually pronounced in english with a soft "g" like the g in "geo...", but as it was named after a Japanese, Dr. Sugi, whose name is pronounced with a hard "g", like the g in "give", almost everybody is saying it wrong in english. :-S

16th Jun 2013 07:10 UTCDan R. Lynch

On the subject of pronunciations, how about descloizite? It's named for Alfred Lewis Oliver Legrand des Cloizeaux, and anyone who knows a little French knows that "des" is generally pronounced like "day." So, shouldn't the mineral be pronounced "day-cloizite"? That's how I've always said it, but every time I hear anyone else say it, I hear the S pronounced, like "dess-cloizite." Maybe some of our European friends can offer their input.

16th Jun 2013 08:09 UTCTimothy Greenland

Dan,


Descloizite is a persistant, though (usually) good natured grumble among my French mineralogical friends... Of course it SHOULD be "Day -kloi - zite", but common usage seems to reign in the pronunciation field and I had always heard it as dess- cloy -izite until I came to live in France.


Thanks Alfredo for the "heads up" - I had never imagined pronouncing sugilite with a soft 'g' - but then, it's not a mineral I discuss often - perhaps I should!


Cheers


Tim

16th Jun 2013 08:55 UTCVolkmar Stingl

Thanks for the explanation, Doug!

16th Jun 2013 13:47 UTCRock Currier Expert

I have heard that pronunciation, but have no confidence that it is the correct way to pronounce the name. I was hoping that someone from Finland would come along and tell us what the correct pronunciation of was.

25th Aug 2024 17:02 UTCFrank K. Mazdab 🌟 Expert

Unlike others here, I like systematic mineral names, because they make learning something complicated way easier. Minerals names aren't intended to be artsy or to make a statement or to stand as monuments to people or places... they're intended to convey information, so that process should be as simple as possible.

While a mineral name like fluoro-potassic-ferro-pargasite doesn't at first glance look "simple", it actually really is. If you know the basic "skeleton" formula for an amphibole, you could write the formula for this mineral (and the other 130 or so other group members), not by trying to wipe the cobwebs from your memory, but simply by deriving it one step at a time from a simpler base formula like tremolite.

I think localities (e.g. like Pargas for pargasite), composition (e.g. like chromium for chromite), and properties (e.g. like carmine for carminite) are all great inspirations for root-names to build systematic names  In contrast to names derived from localities, composition or properties, I absolutely despise naming minerals after people. Long-dead people who made major contributions to the science aren't necessarily terrible choices (although we seem to always find out about their darker sides years later and then end up having buyer's remorse). Names after living people shouldn't even be allowed... names after mentors and colleagues just feeds into cronyism and narcissism, and we have enough of all that in the world already. There's even a mineral named after a Russian actress (chursinite), whom I find no obvious connection to mineralogy other than perhaps it was fantasies of her that got the authors through those lonely nights in the Kyrgyz mountains? Inspiring? For the authors, perhaps. For the rest of us? I suspect few of us care.
 
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