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minID: V5J-VFY

Topaz : Al2(SiO4)(F,OH)2

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Dimensions: 9.0 cm

Topaz, Alabashka, Mursinka, USSR. Displayed by Harvard University at the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show, 1985.

The following is quoted from a Mineralogical Record Book Review by Peter Lyckberg.

Murzinka

Mineralogical Almanac, Volume 5, 2002 .By Valentina I. Popova, Vladimir A. Popov, A. Kanonerov. Editor Igor V. Pekov.

Mokrusha mine—“Another large crystal is in the Museum of Natural History in Milano (several cleavages of one large, blue, translucent crystal). Topaz crystals already broken in the pocket, with diameters of 15 cm or more were not uncommonly encountered during recent work in 1976 and 1985 (reviewer’s collection). Although this book perhaps does not make it sufficiently clear, the fact is that 99.99% of all fine blue topaz from “the Urals” is from the Mokrusha vein; other topaz occurrences in the region are negligible by comparison.”

The Mokrusha mine is listed under the Alabashka Pegmatite Field in the Mindat data base. This seems to be the most specific location for fine blue topaz in the Urals.


This photo has been shown 509 times
Photo added:6th Mar 2014
Dimensions:1200x800px (0.96 megapixels)
Camera:CANON EOS 50D

Data Identifiers

Mindat Photo ID:597770 📋 (quote this with any query about this photo)
Long-form Identifier:mindat:1:4:597770:0 📋
GUID:da0daa54-83d1-4d6d-9e70-5ff4df2734e1 📋
Specimen MinIDV5J-VFY (note: this is not unique to this photo, it is unique to the specimen)

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PhotosTopaz, Tucson 1985

28th Sep 2016 18:54 UTCJamison K. Brizendine 🌟 Expert

I was looking at pictures and stumbled onto this. I know Larry has been trying to connect his old photographs with historical specimens and I found the connection for this one: The locality is Ekaterinburg, Sverdlovskaya Oblast, Middle Urals, Urals Region, Russia (though Larry is technically correct as Russia was the major portion of the USSR in the 1970s).


Rock Currier took two photographs of the specimens with the following footnote: Specimen is from the Burrage collection at Harvard University #99217 (1973).


These are two photographs taken by Rock.




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However, this does lead me to a problematic question: If this specimen was acquired in 1973, and Albert C. Burrage died in 1931, then somebody (either Rock or Harvard) made a goofup..


Thought you might enjoy that!

28th Sep 2016 22:24 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

"However, this does lead me to a problematic question: If this specimen was acquired in 1973, and Albert C. Burrage died in 1931, then somebody (either Rock or Harvard) made a goofup.." - Not necessarily. Museums have been known to trade specimens and if the specimen traded was from the Burrage collection, it would only be fair to keep specimen received in his "collection". (the museum actually got his collection in 1940's). - the Burrage collection was primarily gold and Bisbee specimens

29th Sep 2016 14:13 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

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Interesting find, Guys


I think that the 1973 date is the date that Rock photographed the specimen at Harvard and the Mindat upload date is the date that he digitized the photo. Using the MinID, I have connected to several of Rock’s old photos and I see similar dates in the 70’s. It is possible that he made arrangements with museums to photograph some of their specimens. The cases were opened and he was able to place his scale in the photo.


Here is the original slide with the Harvard label taken at the 1985 Tucson Show.



I am not familiar with these locations. If someone can verify that the Alabashka, Mursinka, USSR, location is inclusive in the Ekaterinburg, Sverdlovskaya Oblast, Middle Urals, Urals Region, Russia, I will change my photo from “other” to “mineral” and connect to Rock’s photos using the MinID.

29th Sep 2016 16:09 UTCJamison K. Brizendine 🌟 Expert

The 1973 date now makes more sense... I was under the impression that Harvard acquired the specimen in 1973, which seemed odd considering they got the Burrage collection in the 1940s and Albert Burrage died in 1931.

30th Sep 2016 00:17 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

Thanks for the info, Uwe.


During my research of the Alabashka Pegmatite Field I came upon this interesting Mineralogical Record Book Review.


Murzinka

Mineralogical Almanac, Volume 5, 2002 .By Valentina I. Popova, Vladimir A. Popov, A. Kanonerov. Editor Igor V. Pekov.


Mokrusha mine—“Another large crystal is in the Museum of Natural History in Milano (several cleavages of one large, blue, translucent crystal). Topaz crystals already broken in the pocket, with diameters of 15 cm or more, were not uncommonly encountered during recent work in 1976 and 1985 (reviewer’s collection). Although this book perhaps does not make it sufficiently clear, the fact is that 99.99% of all fine blue topaz from “the Urals” is from the Mokrusha vein; other topaz occurrences in the region are negligible by comparison.”


http://www.minrec.org/pdfs/TheMineralogicalRecord_BookReviews.pdf


The Mokrusha mine is listed under the Alabashka Pegmatite Field in the Mindat data base. This seems to be the most specific location for fine blue topaz in the Urals.
 
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