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Beryl (Var: Aquamarine) : Be3Al2Si6O18, Beryl (Var: Heliodor) : Be3Al2(Si6O18), Muscovite : KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2

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minID: NTC-UAG

Beryl (Var: Aquamarine) : Be3Al2Si6O18, Beryl (Var: Heliodor) : Be3Al2(Si6O18), Muscovite : KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2

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Dimensions: 1.8 cm x 1.1 cm x .09 cm
Weight: 6.6 g

A pair of unusual beryl crystals from a classic New England location.
The aquamarine is fully terminated with a dusting of mica on top, and grew in a pocket whereas most pieces are frozen in quartz.
The "heliodor" is almost a green color, and quite different from every other piece I have seen from there.
The Aquamarine measures 1.8x1.1x0.9cm and has a mass of 3.3g
The Heliodor measures 1.6x1.1x1.1cm and also has a mass of 3.3g
Part of my beryl suite.


Collected by: Charlie Harakaly

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Photo added:9th Mar 2021
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Data Identifiers

Mindat Photo ID:1129301 📋 (quote this with any query about this photo)
Long-form Identifier:mindat:1:4:1129301:0 📋
GUID:bf6fc65d-b2fa-4827-85d5-4528f7aba450 📋
Specimen MinIDNTC-UAG (note: this is not unique to this photo, it is unique to the specimen)

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Photos"Identity Uncertain" from Slocum Prospect, CT

10th Mar 2021 15:25 UTCAdam Kelly

I have these two crystals from Slocum Prospect in East Hampton, CT.
I purchased these along with many others from there approximately 20 years ago from Charlie Harakaly. He was an avid collector, and collected all over Connecticut starting in the 70's.
I don't believe there is any reason to question the aquamarine.

As far as the other crystal, It certainly looks like beryl from the cross section.

The Slocum Prospect page says: Regarding beryl, Schooner (1958) reports that:
"A few years ago, Frank Bibik reopened the Slocum Quarry and worked it sporadically for specimens and gems of golden and greenish beryl. Some superb crystals were obtained at that time. The author has seen one marvelously etched crystal, of a rich greenish-golden color and almost flawless, in the collection of Robert Gallant. It was embedded in clay in a small cavity. The operator also unearthed one of these truly gorgeous crystals."  
There is another similar reference on the Slocum page as well.

I'm hoping a Connecticut expert will chime in.
Thanks all,
Adam Kelly

10th Mar 2021 22:43 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Adam
When you uploaded this photo you indicated aquamarine, heliodor and muscovite 
This resulted in the ID query
Certainly don't see any heliodor.
Aquamarine wasn't questioned. Lighting was also queried.

11th Mar 2021 14:49 UTCAdam Kelly

Hello Keith,
I see what you are saying about it being different than heliodor.
Obviously I wasn't going to call it emerald even thought it is quite green.
Guess I should have just gone with Beryl.
As far as the lighting, the color is an accurate representation of what it looks like in good lighting.
I also started this thread due to my own curiosity. 
Never have I seen this color from Connecticut, although it is somewhat reminiscent of some of the pieces from the Ukraine.
Thanks,
 Adam   

11th Mar 2021 01:01 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert

I would post these in separate photos so each could be dealt with individually. The one on the right could be from Slocum, but the non-yellowish color there is rather rare. The beryl in the quote may be this one: https://www.mindat.org/photo-237997.html but a look at the beryl gallery there shows overwhelmingly yellows. It does look more like beryls found in the numerous small beryl prospects on Long Hill in Haddam: https://www.mindat.org/gallery.php?loc=213297&min=819
The left one is a very unusual deep green color but may also be Long Hill. Is it red toward the bottom? If so that's just weird. Are you sure it isn't elbaite? I don't see striations tho, so I don't think so.

11th Mar 2021 15:02 UTCAdam Kelly

Hello Harold,
I thought about posting these separately, but since I got them together I thought it would be nice to catalogue them together. "now rethinking that"
The parcel these came in contained about 50 crystals.
Most were about this size, and the color ranged from almost white to the green one in question. there was quite a bit of pale blue in there.
I have collected and seen quite a variety of beryl around Long Hill. It is amazing how many different colors, styles, and qualities came from that area.
Charlie was pretty good about his labels, but anyone can make a mistake.
The red toward the bottom is caused by iron staining in the crystal.
As you say, it's just weird, but I don't believe it's elbaite.
Thanks again,
Adam  

11th Mar 2021 16:52 UTCTony Albini

Adam, as Harold mentioned, I have seen both gem and opaque yellow beryl from Slocum.
Typical color here. Richard Schooner wrote that Louis W. Little collected flawless gem golden beryl in the late 1920s or early 1930s, some are at Harvard University. Non-pocket xls are opaque yellow from what I have seen from there. No collecting is allowed there now.  Richard Schooner further states that some pale green xls originated from there and that Bob Gallant collected greenish-yellow gem etched xls in the 1950s.

11th Mar 2021 17:17 UTCAdam Kelly

Hey Tony,
I am wondering if this is more similar to the style Bob Gallant collected.
The color "at least on my monitor and phone" are very accurate to the color in hand.
Adam

12th Mar 2021 16:26 UTCTony Albini

Adam, anything is possible, I just have not seen any of that color from there.

11th Mar 2021 16:40 UTCEd Clopton 🌟 Expert

I'm not familiar with the locality, but any chance that the dark green one is apatite?

11th Mar 2021 18:45 UTCAdam Kelly

Hey Ed,
I had never thought about apatite.
Fluorapatite is listed as coming from there, but there are not any photos.
I don't have the specimen with me, but I'll try a scratch test in a few days.
Adam

11th Mar 2021 21:43 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert

Unlikely fluorapatite, most of it from pegs in the area is opaque and rarely euhedral, except at Gillette and Strickland where there are many miarolitic cavities and complex mineralogy. Slocum is actually a fairly simple peg by comparison. But if fluorapatite is should fluoresce bright yellow to yellow white.

12th Mar 2021 03:34 UTCAdam Kelly

Unfortunately my UV light died. 
And last I knew cheap ones aren’t good, and good ones aren’t cheap.

12th Mar 2021 12:30 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert

Fluorapatite will fluoresce yellow under LW (not as well as under SW and MW but enough to ID it) and those "blacklight" lamps are dirt cheap.

10th Jun 2021 18:29 UTCAdam Kelly

Finally checked the piece in question with a UV and saw no fluorescence.

11th Jun 2021 11:02 UTCHarold Moritz 🌟 Expert

OK, I'm still leaning toward beryls from Long Hill, Haddam.

11th Jun 2021 14:21 UTCTony Albini

Adam, I agree with Fritz that these are not from Slocum and could be from Long Hill, Haddam, a prolific source of beryl.

11th Jun 2021 18:03 UTCAdam Kelly

Thanks Harold and Tony!
I will adjust label to say.
Beryl
Long Hill, Haddam?
Connecticut
In the long run, I would still like to get these into one of your hands at some point, as that might reveal some more clues.
Thanks,
Adam
 
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