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LocalitiesFloitengrund, Mayrhofen, Schwaz District, Tyrol, Austria

19th Jan 2020 02:09 UTCMartin Rich Expert

The area "Floitengrund clefts" is in my opinion not necessary (in the new style of mindat hierarchy). Consequently we have to add "locality name clefts" for the other valleys in this region.

19th Jan 2020 13:18 UTCWolfgang Hampel 🌟 Expert

Martin,

Between 1988 and 1990 I did a lot of geological fieldwork there, incl. geological mapping of the  last 5 km of the valley and geochemistry of the so-called "floitites". I would very much prefer simply calling it Floitental/Floiten Valley and then add sublocalities like Zsigmondy Spitze, Gigalitz, Großer Löffler, Großer Mörchner, Greiner, Stillupgrund water tunnel, etc., i.e. the most prominent mountain tops or otherwise defineable geographical spots  .

During my fieldwork I discovered one particularly big alpine cleft at the bottom of Großer Mörchner containing huge scolecite sprays, smoky quartz, adularia, stilbite, titanite and others. Unfortunately, some lucky person did find this cleft before I did and left a tool in there, so I considered it as "taken" and took only a single small 4 cm specimen with nice titanite crystals. Still today I wonder who this lucky person was...

Wolfgang

19th Jan 2020 14:29 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

Hi Martin,

I agree, plainly Floitengrund is better in my opinion. Before I'll change it back to Floitengrund I'll ask the one who changed it why he thought it had to be changed.

19th Jan 2020 14:36 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

The description was

"Mineralized clefts in gneisses."

That's what the locality is describing, is it not?

otherwise if it's just a description for the valley, things might be added that are NOT associated with the mineralized clefts in gneiss.

This is a problem widespread with things that are added with a generic area name which actually refer to something more specific.

Maybe it needs to be changed to "Clefts in Gneiss, Floitengrund Valley, ...." but that's not for me to decide.

Alternatively update the description to something that actually matches the valley, eg "This valley contains many mineralized clefts in gneiss."


With such short descriptions I have had to do the best I can to correct them as I could. I am sure some things such as this may need to be changed, but hopefully this will encourage everyone to improve the quality of the locality names and descriptive text.

19th Jan 2020 14:37 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

We have other cases where we have had something added as a town name, and the description says "old iron mine".

Then PLEASE add it as a mine, not the town name!!!!

19th Jan 2020 18:03 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

I'll change it back to 'Floiten valley (Floitengrund)' and change the description (Jolyon, the 'Grund' in this valley's name is the dialect word for valley ;-) )

20th Jan 2020 01:21 UTCMartin Rich Expert

Thank you all for your effort! A proper description for localities helps a lot. In a lot of cases this was not done, because a lot of users are too lazy to do this, including me :( . Such non hierarchial areas like locality name clefts (minig area, metallic deposit area,...) would make sense if we could use a detailed geological map as base for it.

Wolfgang, I'm pretty sure that I was not the guy, which discovered the big cleft you mentioned! ;)

20th Jan 2020 08:53 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

would make sense if we could use a detailed geological map as base for it.

Martin, we do use a geological map for non-hierarchical geological features ;-)
It's just that the old entries haven't been added using them.

20th Jan 2020 20:06 UTCMartin Rich Expert

Harjo, I know that. Maybe in the future there will be come mindat 2.0 with a detailed geological map of the world as a base and without any man-made boundaries.
 
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