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Field CollectingBeginner- quartz hunting
4th Oct 2017 18:33 UTCMelissa Kenny
4th Oct 2017 19:41 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
Depending on your landscaping and desire to find more, I'd suggest opening up a small two foot by two foot test pit as near to where you found it as possible, dig down a few feet to see if anything else is there. If not, either it's simply a lost item transported there some time ago (from who knows where), or what little quartz you do have floating loose in your soil, is simply not worth the effort to find more.
Interesting yes, and very much a fun project too, but probably not a deposit that's worth working in any economic sense. You'd have to find some really exceptionally beautiful crystal to make that much effort and re-scaping worth your while.
My crossed fingers and hopes for success go out to you!
PS: Keep in mind that you're not far from the very popular quartz collecting sites around Herkiner, NY. It''s very likely just a clinker brought home from one of the previous owners field collecting ventures that was just left out in the yard (seems the more likely scenario).
Quartz var Herkimer Diamond HUGE SIngle xtl! Fonda, Mohawk Twp, Montgomery Co., NY 5.75 x 4.5 x 4 inch
4th Oct 2017 19:46 UTCMatt Ciranni
4th Oct 2017 22:58 UTCMelissa Kenny
Thank you so much for all the helpful info and the encouraging words. Mark, I think I will dig down further into the original site- I only dug out about a square foot. Matt, I will try under some of the large tree roots and also around the base of the boulders like you suggested. I'll keep an eye out for veins as well. I just wanted to be sure I was headed in the right direction. Thanks again!!! Hopefully I'll be posting again with my findings!!
P.S. In terms of value, any idea how much the quartz I already found would be worth? I know I'm not digging for diamonds but I was just curious... I was thinking about attending the Gem show in NYC in November. It would be my first time attending a show- would I be able to get appraisals there on anything I find?
Thank you!!!!
4th Oct 2017 23:17 UTCSusan Robinson
5th Oct 2017 00:14 UTCBob Harman
5th Oct 2017 00:37 UTCMelissa Kenny
Bob, thank you as well- I assumed as much but thought it was worth a check.
Thanks again!!
5th Oct 2017 05:15 UTCDoug Daniels
5th Oct 2017 14:22 UTCMark Kucera 🌟
As Susan Robinson pointed out - Albany has a show (and a great club)... if you want to wait until February. There are other shows coming up. I'm not sure where/how you define mid-state NY but Bristol, CT has a show 21-22 Oct. The Stamford, CT club has a show 4-5 Nov. The Morris Museum
in Morristown, NJ has a show Thanksgiving weekend. These are all club sponsored shows. There are plenty more clubs and shows around. I can't agree more with the folks suggesting you find a mineral club close by.
I also sent you a PM with additional comments on finding a club and on the 'appraisal' of your find.
Have fun. Mark K.
5th Oct 2017 14:31 UTCMelissa Kenny
Happy rockhounding to all!
5th Oct 2017 15:58 UTCDonald B Peck Expert
Not sure where you are in "central New York", but It can be interesting walking over farmer's newly plowed fields (of course with permission) in the Herkimer/Fonda area after a rain storm. Especially in the spring. The plowing and harrowing turns up quartz crystals that have been lifted by frost action and the rain washes them off so they glint in the sun light.
Don
5th Oct 2017 15:59 UTCWayne Corwin
What you have found is known as a "Herkimer Diamond", it didn't come from your white quartz veins,, tho you may find some openings in the white quartz with regular quartz crystals in them, yours came from a pocket in 'dolostone' , similar to the rock stuck in your crystal, you will need to look for rock similar to the stone in your crystal.
As for value, I would guess it to be between 20-40 dollars at most, mostly because of the size, not the condition,
Still a very good find to get you started !
New York Gem and Mineral Clubs
http://www.rockhounds.com/rockshop/clubs/new_york.shtml
Good luck and injoy your new hobby ! ! !
Keep On Rockin'
5th Oct 2017 16:45 UTCBob Harman
Next point is WAYNE's value. We might quibble, but if MELISSA's pictures are accurate, I don't think there will be much interest. I do not see any evidence of crystal faces in her specimens.
Of bigger importance is that a beginner immediately concerned with "value" of a find is getting off on the wrong foot. Beginners should be most interested in identification of their finds and how to proceed from that to continue their new found hobby; joining a club, attending local shows etc etc. IMHO, collecting specifically for value should only come somewhere down the line. CHEERS......BOB
5th Oct 2017 20:06 UTCMark Gottlieb
5th Oct 2017 20:33 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
6th Oct 2017 15:31 UTCAlfred L. Ostrander
There has been a lot of talk about Herkimer and the quartz crystals referred to as Herkimer diamonds. It sounds like you don't live very far away. So why not a field trip to Herkimer and see what it is all about on a larger scale? Call it an educational field trip. Try the Herkimer diamond Mine by the KOA campground or the Ace of Diamonds Mine just a short distance up the road. Both are easy to get to and cater to beginners. You can see the rock type these crystals are found in and just how hard it can be. You might not find any large crystals but lots of small ones can easily be found. You can easily find information on line about these digs.
And yes, if you want to be hammering on rock, get yourself a proper hammer. A carpenter's claw hammer is NOT the proper tool. A good geologists hammer or brick mason's hammer is what you need. Estwing brand tools are not cheap but worth the money, particularly if you think you are going to get into this hobby.
6th Oct 2017 15:48 UTCDonald B Peck Expert
good advice from Al O. To add to his comment on hammers: carpenter's claw hammers can be dangerous. The steel is not tempered for striking rocks, and sharp chips can break off and fly. My favorite hammer was an Estwing 3 lb. crack hammer. I used it a lot more than my geo pick so my vote would be for a good Estwing 3l lb. crack hammer for a first investment (with a good Estwing chisel) and the geologists pick second.
Don
6th Oct 2017 18:34 UTCScott Rider
I would have not found ANY pockets without that tool!!
Then you will need multiple cold chisels. Get one with a hand guard, it'll save you from a bruised to broken hand... These are a must because you will need to crack the rock and chisels have the ability to not only crack the hard rock, but also split it a little bit so that the crack moves further into the rock. Just hammering away without this will not get you very far...
A rockhound must is a pry bar, or even multiple bars. I have many different ones, from an 8" all the way to this 3 foot, heavy and reinforced bar (I call it the mountain mover, the one images is just $30)... These bars are essential because you will need a way to move large hunks of rock. Using just a hammer will not get you very far. I just got the one below this year and its transformed my crystal hunting abilities for the better!!!
Finally, you'll need a shovel to remove all trailings from the hole... I use a short shovel, not a long regular shovel as its easier to shovel stuff out of holes with a shorter pole...
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