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Roch Neir, Mussa Alp (Pian della Mussa; Piano della Mussa; La Mussa; Lamussa), Balme, Metropolitan City of Turin, Piedmont, Italyi
Regional Level Types
Roch NeirMountain
Mussa Alp (Pian della Mussa; Piano della Mussa; La Mussa; Lamussa)Alpine Pasture
BalmeCommune
Metropolitan City of TurinMetropolitan City
PiedmontRegion
Italy- not defined -
Roch Neir, Mussa Alp (Pian della Mussa; Piano della Mussa; La Mussa; Lamussa), Ala Valley, Lanzo Valleys, Metropolitan City of Turin, Piedmont, Italy
Roch Neir, Mussa Alp (Pian della Mussa; Piano della Mussa; La Mussa; Lamussa), Lanzo Valleys, Metropolitan City of Turin, Piedmont, Italy

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Latitude & Longitude (WGS84):
45° 18' 9'' North , 7° 10' 32'' East
Latitude & Longitude (decimal):
45.30264,7.17568
GeoHash:
G#: u0j1er14v
GRN:
N31E04
Type:
Mountain
Köppen climate type:
Cfb : Temperate oceanic climate
Nearest Settlements:
PlacePopulationDistance
Usseglio142 (2014)8.5km
Ala di Stura328 (2014)10.1km
Bonneval-sur-Arc261 (2016)12.7km
Bessans343 (2016)14.2km
Chialamberto200 (2014)14.7km
Mindat Locality ID:
65046
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:2:65046:4
GUID (UUID V4):
c116303a-1308-4184-a426-32e3109b6ba2
Other/historical names associated with this locality:
Roche-Noire; Rocca Nera
Other Languages:
Italian:
Roch Neir, Balme, Città metropolitana di Torino (Provincia di Torino), Piemonte, Italia


Rodingite dykes in ophiolitic rocks.

Roch Neir is one of the two type localities (all situated near Pian della Mussa in Ala valley) for diopside [for a review, see http://www.mindat.org/loc-20461.html].

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Standard Detailed Gallery Strunz Chemical Elements

Mineral List


11 valid minerals.

Detailed Mineral List:

ⓘ Andradite
Formula: Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘ Andradite var. Demantoid
Formula: Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘ Andradite var. Topazolite
Formula: Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘ 'Apatite'
Formula: Ca5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
ⓘ Calcite
Formula: CaCO3
ⓘ Clinochlore
Formula: Mg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
ⓘ Clinohumite
Formula: Mg9(SiO4)4F2
ⓘ Diopside
Formula: CaMgSi2O6
ⓘ Epidote
Formula: (CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
ⓘ Grossular
Formula: Ca3Al2(SiO4)3
ⓘ Grossular var. Hessonite
Formula: Ca3Al2(SiO4)3
ⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite
Formula: (Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
ⓘ Magnetite
Formula: Fe2+Fe3+2O4
ⓘ Perovskite
Formula: CaTiO3
ⓘ Prehnite
Formula: Ca2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
ⓘ Vesuvianite
Formula: Ca19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9

Gallery:

Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3ⓘ Andradite
Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3ⓘ Andradite var. Topazolite
CaMgSi2O6ⓘ Diopside
Fe2+Fe3+2O4ⓘ Magnetite

List of minerals arranged by Strunz 10th Edition classification

Group 4 - Oxides and Hydroxides
ⓘMagnetite4.BB.05Fe2+Fe3+2O4
ⓘPerovskite4.CC.30CaTiO3
Group 5 - Nitrates and Carbonates
ⓘCalcite5.AB.05CaCO3
Group 9 - Silicates
ⓘAndradite9.AD.25Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘvar. Demantoid9.AD.25Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘGrossular9.AD.25Ca3Al2(SiO4)3
ⓘvar. Hessonite9.AD.25Ca3Al2(SiO4)3
ⓘAndradite
var. Topazolite		9.AD.25Ca3Fe3+2(SiO4)3
ⓘClinohumite9.AF.55Mg9(SiO4)4F2
ⓘHydroxylclinohumite
var. Titanclinohumite		9.AF.55(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
ⓘEpidote9.BG.05a(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
ⓘVesuvianite9.BG.35Ca19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
ⓘDiopside9.DA.15CaMgSi2O6
ⓘPrehnite9.DP.20Ca2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
ⓘClinochlore9.EC.55Mg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Unclassified
ⓘ'Apatite'-Ca5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)

List of minerals for each chemical element

HHydrogen
Hⓘ ClinochloreMg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Hⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Hⓘ PrehniteCa2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
Hⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Hⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
Hⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
CCarbon
Cⓘ CalciteCaCO3
OOxygen
Oⓘ AndraditeCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Oⓘ CalciteCaCO3
Oⓘ ClinochloreMg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Oⓘ ClinohumiteMg9(SiO4)4F2
Oⓘ Andradite var. DemantoidCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Oⓘ DiopsideCaMgSi2O6
Oⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Oⓘ GrossularCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Oⓘ Grossular var. HessoniteCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Oⓘ MagnetiteFe2+Fe23+O4
Oⓘ PerovskiteCaTiO3
Oⓘ PrehniteCa2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
Oⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Oⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
Oⓘ Andradite var. TopazoliteCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Oⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
FFluorine
Fⓘ ClinohumiteMg9(SiO4)4F2
Fⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
Fⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
MgMagnesium
Mgⓘ ClinochloreMg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Mgⓘ ClinohumiteMg9(SiO4)4F2
Mgⓘ DiopsideCaMgSi2O6
Mgⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Mgⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
AlAluminium
Alⓘ ClinochloreMg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Alⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Alⓘ GrossularCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Alⓘ Grossular var. HessoniteCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Alⓘ PrehniteCa2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
Alⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
SiSilicon
Siⓘ AndraditeCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Siⓘ ClinochloreMg5Al(AlSi3O10)(OH)8
Siⓘ ClinohumiteMg9(SiO4)4F2
Siⓘ Andradite var. DemantoidCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Siⓘ DiopsideCaMgSi2O6
Siⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Siⓘ GrossularCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Siⓘ Grossular var. HessoniteCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Siⓘ PrehniteCa2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
Siⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Siⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
Siⓘ Andradite var. TopazoliteCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
PPhosphorus
Pⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
ClChlorine
Clⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
CaCalcium
Caⓘ AndraditeCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Caⓘ CalciteCaCO3
Caⓘ Andradite var. DemantoidCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Caⓘ DiopsideCaMgSi2O6
Caⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Caⓘ GrossularCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Caⓘ Grossular var. HessoniteCa3Al2(SiO4)3
Caⓘ PerovskiteCaTiO3
Caⓘ PrehniteCa2Al2Si3O10(OH)2
Caⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Caⓘ Andradite var. TopazoliteCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Caⓘ ApatiteCa5(PO4)3(Cl/F/OH)
TiTitanium
Tiⓘ PerovskiteCaTiO3
Tiⓘ Hydroxylclinohumite var. Titanclinohumite(Mg,Ti)9(SiO4)4(OH,F)2
FeIron
Feⓘ AndraditeCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Feⓘ Andradite var. DemantoidCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3
Feⓘ Epidote(CaCa)(AlAlFe3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH)
Feⓘ MagnetiteFe2+Fe23+O4
Feⓘ VesuvianiteCa19Fe3+Al4(Al6Mg2)(◻4)◻[Si2O7]4[(SiO4)10]O(OH)9
Feⓘ Andradite var. TopazoliteCa3Fe23+(SiO4)3

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