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This article has been prepared for the Mindat Best Minerals project. The aim of this project is to present information on important localities and specimens for each mineral specie. As new finds are made and new knowledge is made available the individual articles will be revised to include this information. Readers are encouraged to contribute by posting a response in this thread. All revisions will be stored, thus ensuring traceability and availability of previously included information. A complete list of articles can be found in the list of finished Best Minerals articles. To cite this version: Currier, R. (ed,) (2009) Arsenic. revision 1.0. Mindat Best Minerals Project, article "mesg-66-139149". Please be advised that the photos cannot be used without the consent of the copyright holder


Arsenic

As

Trigonal




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1.Arsenic, Jáchymov, Ostrov, Krušné Hory Mts (Erzgebirge), Bohemia Czech Republic ~1.5cm each
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1.Arsenic, Jáchymov, Ostrov, Krušné Hory Mts (Erzgebirge), Bohemia Czech Republic ~1.5cm each
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1.Arsenic, Jáchymov, Ostrov, Krušné Hory Mts (Erzgebirge), Bohemia Czech Republic ~1.5cm each


A native element and is toxic. The first industrial use of Arsenic may have been to alloy it with bronze to give the metal more strength, like for cannon barrels. Arsenic occurs at many (290 currently listed on Mindat, but even the best specimens will not draw the attention of anyone but the knowledgeable collector. They are usually a dull gray or black and usually mammillary or botryoidal. The best crystallized specimens I have seen are from Jáchymov, Bohemia, Czech Republic.


On a fresh surface Arsenic is bright metallic, quickly tarnishing black. Antimony remains a bright tin white. Above 300 C Arsenic and antimony form a complete solutiuon series, but below that Stibarsen (AsSb) precipitates out. The stibarsen like the antimony is tin white. So when Antomony predominates you get tin white with tin white and you don't see the stibarsen. But when Arsenic dominates, you get attractive black arsenic with white Atibarsen. It might be mentioned that Arsenolamprite is unstable and reverts to Arsenic. There are prismatic Arsenic xls thar are pseudos after Arsenolamprite.



Arsenic,
Canada,
British Columbia, Nanaimo Mining Division, Vancouver Island, Comox District, Mt Washington mine

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2.Arsenic 4.6cm wide
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2.Arsenic 4.6cm wide
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2.Arsenic 4.6cm wide



Arsenic,
Canada,
British Colombia, Skeena Mining Division, Queen Charlotte Islands, Alder Island

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3.Arsenic, 5.4cm wide
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3.Arsenic, 5.4cm wide
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3.Arsenic, 5.4cm wide

It occurs as fine specimens on Alder Island…”1 Here arsenic occured as large reniform masses but no crystals were found.2
1. Encyclopedia of Minerals, Roberts, Campbell, Rapp, Second Edition, 1990, p 45. 2. Email, Rob Woodside, 2009.
We need someone to tell us about these arsenic specimens and the locality.


Arsenic,
Canada,
British Colombia, Atlin Mining Division, Tagish Lake, Engineer Mine

Botryoidal Arsenic with Stibarsen and rarities came from the Engineer Mine, Atlin B.C. and grotti Arsenic came from Savona, B.C. I might be able to dig up some pictures. The Engineer material rates with some stuff posted here, but the Savona material, while intersting large lumps, is not the greatest. As a kid I found flecks of Native Arsenic, behind St Joseph's Oratory, on Mount Royal in Montreal. Montreal is a Dana Locality!!!



Arsenic,
Canada,
Ontario, Thunder Bay District, Lake Superior, Edward Island, Cross Property

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4.Arsenic 7cm wide
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4.Arsenic 7cm wide
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4.Arsenic 7cm wide



Arsenic,
Czech Republic,
Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen), Central Bohemia Region, Kladno, Ronna Mine

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5.Arsenic crystals, small, size unknown
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5.Arsenic crystals, small, size unknown
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5.Arsenic crystals, small, size unknown



Arsenic,
Czech Republic,
Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen), Central Bohemia Region, Příbram, Březové Hory (Birkenberg)

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6.Arsenic, 4.4cm wide
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7.Arsenic, 5.5cm wide
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6.Arsenic, 4.4cm wide
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7.Arsenic, 5.5cm wide
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6.Arsenic, 4.4cm wide
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7.Arsenic, 5.5cm wide
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8.Arsenic, FOV 1.4cm
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8.Arsenic, FOV 1.4cm
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8.Arsenic, FOV 1.4cm

Antimony and Stibarsen remain tin white while Arsenic quickly turns black. The photos from Brezovi Hori, Czech Republic show this well. The M Kampf photo (#8) shows the black mamillary Arsenic containing tin white layers of Stibarsen. (Below 300 C Sb is insoluble in As and the Sb sweats out as Stibarsen. Stibarsen is a little greyer than Antimony). The Jakub Jurasec photo (#7) is tin white and shows only Stibarsen or Antimony. Some localities, I don't know if this is one, produce all three minerals. Looking at the back of Jakub's specimen would tell the tale. If it is like M. Kampf's piece, it is stibarsen; but if it is all tin white, then it is either Antimony or Stibarsen and analysis is required. When analysed things like Paradocrasite etc. often show up. It is often worth checking Stibarsen pieces for these rarities, if you like having invisible species in your collection. Perhaps Jakub could comment.



Arsenic,
Czech Republic,
Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen), Karlovy Vary Region, Krušné Hory Mts (Erzgebirge), Ostrov, Jáchymov (St Joachimsthal)

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9.Arsenic & Orpiment 7.5cm wide
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10.Arsenic, 14.5cm
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9.Arsenic & Orpiment 7.5cm wide
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10.Arsenic, 14.5cm
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9.Arsenic & Orpiment 7.5cm wide
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10.Arsenic, 14.5cm
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11.Arsenic, FOV 2.7cm
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11.Arsenic, FOV 2.7cm
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11.Arsenic, FOV 2.7cm

Besides the nice botryoidal specimens pictured directly above, the locality produces well crystallized but rarely obtainable arsenic specimens. Two small well crystallized arsenic specimens are pictured as the lead in on this article at its top. These small specimens in the British Museum of Natural History show well developed flat crystals that are better than the ones from Japan. They are very uncommon. I have never seen one for sale. I would dearly love to own one of these elegant little specimens. I know no private collector who owns one. Value? $1000+.



Arsenic,
Czech Republic,
Bohemia (Böhmen; Boehmen), Karlovy Vary Region, Krušné Hory Mts (Erzgebirge), Ostrov, Jáchymov (St Joachimsthal), Svornost Mine (Einigkeit Mine)

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12.Arsenic & Realgar, 8cm wide
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12.Arsenic & Realgar, 8cm wide
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12.Arsenic & Realgar, 8cm wide



Arsenic,
France,
Alsace, Haut-Rhin, Ste Marie-aux-Mines (Markirch)

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13.Arsenic, 16.5cm wide
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14.Arsenic FOV 8mm
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13.Arsenic, 16.5cm wide
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14.Arsenic FOV 8mm
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13.Arsenic, 16.5cm wide
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14.Arsenic FOV 8mm
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15.Arsenic, FOV 4cm
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16.Arsenic & Calcite, FOV 2cm
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15.Arsenic, FOV 4cm
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16.Arsenic & Calcite, FOV 2cm
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15.Arsenic, FOV 4cm
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16.Arsenic & Calcite, FOV 2cm
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17.Arsenic & Proustite, 15.8cm
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18.Arsenic in Calcite, 16.4cm tall
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17.Arsenic & Proustite, 15.8cm
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18.Arsenic in Calcite, 16.4cm tall
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17.Arsenic & Proustite, 15.8cm
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18.Arsenic in Calcite, 16.4cm tall
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19.Arsenic & Proustite, 9.2cm wide
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19.Arsenic & Proustite, 9.2cm wide
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19.Arsenic & Proustite, 9.2cm wide

In the Saint-Guillaume vein Arsenic is common in small masses up to several hundred grams, especially in the Glück-Auf mine. In the Saint-Jacques vein, huge quantities of Arsenic where found and extracted from 1936 until 1940. The Gabe Gottes mine is probably the only in the area that was never exploited specifically for Arsenic. During reexplorations of the mine in the 1980’s, several hundred kilogram of Arsenic where found, some masses weighing more than 30 kg. Nearly all the museums in the world possess at least one specimen of Arsenic from the Gabe Gottes mine which since 2001 is a tourist attraction and can be visited during the summer months.

From the observation of the many specimens from the mines at Ste Marie-aux-Mines, three types of arsenic specimens can be described.

1. Arsenic in concretions and amorphous masses.
This is the most common type and was encountered in nearly all the veins of the Neuenberg district. These masses rarely have smooth surfaces because of micro Arsenic crystals growing on their surfaces. These specimens can reach 20 cm in diameter. On broken surfaces, one can often see layered growth with variations in the size of the crystals composing each layer. The arsenic is often in microscopic grains grading to larger millimetric crystals near the surface. The layers are sometimes separated by small veins of Skutterudite, Rammelsbergite, Lautite and sometimes by native Bismuth. It is in this type of Arsenic that the worlds best Lautite specimens where found, crystals reaching more than 3 cm.

2. Bacillary Arsenic.
This is perhaps the strangest type of Arsenic found in the district and shows 1 to 3 cm long and 1 to 5 mm thick Arsenic embedded in Calcite. According to Lacroix, this type, only known from Sainte Marie-aux-Mines, could be a kind of association like Quartz-Feldspar in graphic pegmatite. On polished section, one can see that the Calcite, who formed like lathlike structures, is composed by micro crystals. The gaps between the Calcite has been filled up with microcrystalline Arsenic. By this procedure, a partial replacement of the Calcite has taken place.

3. Arsenic in monocrystals.
A few crystals where found, after dissolving the calcite matrix. These can reach 2 cm diameter. The crystals are very rich with terminal faces, but due to the instant oxidation of the surface of the crystals, no measurements could be made. The crystals seems to have a different form than the few known natural and artificial crystals. They show a pronounced prism terminated by 4 or 6 faces. Some crystals are naturally bent like some Stibnite crystals, sometimes in an angle reaching 40°. Smaller crystals exists and cluster often together to form stalactites or little round crystal masses.
Ref : Minéralogie des filons du Neuenberg à Sainte Marie-aux-Mines par Hubert Bari, 1982.



Arsenic,
Germany,
Baden-Württemberg, Black Forest, Münstertal, Belchen Mt., Knappengrund Mine, Kaltwasser vein

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20.Arsenic, FOV 22mm
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20.Arsenic, FOV 22mm
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20.Arsenic, FOV 22mm

In the Black Forest native arsenic is quite rare at most localities, due to the lack of bigger veins of the Bismuth-Silver-Nickel-Cobalt-Uranium-Formation (most arsenic localities in Saxony). And at Wittichen, where this formation is frequent, arsenic is only very rare. There most arsenic is either precipitated as cobalt arsenides and secondary arsenates (mixite, arseniosiderite, erythrite, atelestite, heinrichite, zeunerite etc.)

At Clara Mine only small inclusions have been found, whereas at Michael Mine, Weiler, Reichenbach, Lahr, Black Forest small aggregates of arsenic and grey inclusions in chert and baryte are quite common. It is a uncommon mineralization, consisting of arsenic, galena and sphalerite, together with realgar.

The biggest aggregates stem from the southern Black Forest: At Wieden (Tannenboden and Anton Mines), Gottesehre Mine, St. Blasien and Münstertal (Giftgrube and Schindler Vein (Teufelsgrund Mine)), native arsenic has been found as massive aggregates and botryoidal crusts. Also layered ball-shaped aggregates or rounded crusts are common. At Wieden and Gottesehre Mine (both fluorite veins with baryte, sphalerite and galena) only local nests (one at Gottesehre Mine, two at Wieden) occurred, bearing native arsenic, baryte, calcite, proustite xls, some other silver minerals (silver, at Wieden silver sulphides like xanthoconite, argentopyrite, acanthite etc.), kaolinite, schultenite.

At Münstertal arsenic is mostly restricted to the Schindler Vein, especially Giftgrube and Teufelsgrund Mines. Arsenic there is associated with dolomite (often ferroan, often called ankerite), Siderite, Fluorite, as well as Galena.



Arsenic,
Germany,
Hesse, Odenwald, Nieder-Ramstadt, Nieder-Beerbach, Glasberg quarry

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21.Arsenic & Löllingite 11.7cm wide
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22.Arsenic "tower" ~1cm high
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21.Arsenic & Löllingite 11.7cm wide
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22.Arsenic "tower" ~1cm high
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21.Arsenic & Löllingite 11.7cm wide
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22.Arsenic "tower" ~1cm high
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23.Arsenic, 5.8cm wide
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23.Arsenic, 5.8cm wide
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23.Arsenic, 5.8cm wide



Arsenic,
Germany,
Lower Saxony, Harz Mts, St Andreasberg District

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24.Arsenic, 10.4cm wide
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25Arsenic, 6.2cm wide
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24.Arsenic, 10.4cm wide
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25Arsenic, 6.2cm wide
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24.Arsenic, 10.4cm wide
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25Arsenic, 6.2cm wide
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26.Arsenic, 10.5cm wide
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26.Arsenic, 10.5cm wide
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26.Arsenic, 10.5cm wide

Botryoidal to ball-shaped aggregates of native arsenic together with calcite. Often pyrargyrite xls are grown on the balls.1 The Samson Mine, Andreasberg produced reniform masses with Antimony and Stibarsen. On a fresh surface Arsenic is bright metallic, quickly tarnishing black. Antimony remains a bright tin white. Above 300 C Arsenic and antimony form a complete solutiuon series, but below that Stibarsen (AsSb) precipitates out. The stibarsen like the antimony is tin white. So when Antomony predominates you get tin white with tin white and you don't see the stibarsen. But when Arsenic dominates, you get attractive black arsenic with white stibarsen. Quite alot of this material, often with a polished face came out in the 60's.

1. Email Sebastian Möller 2009


Arsenic,
Germany,
Saxony, Erzgebirge, Freiberg District, Freiberg

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27.Arsenic, 17.6cm wide
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27.Arsenic, 17.6cm wide
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27.Arsenic, 17.6cm wide



Arsenic,
Germany,
Saxony, Erzgebirge, Freiberg District, Freiberg, Marienberg District, Vater Abraham Mine ("Shaft 139"; Shaft 152)

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28.Arsenic FOV 5cm
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28.Arsenic FOV 5cm
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28.Arsenic FOV 5cm

Marienberg (especially the Amandus Flacher Vein at the Vater Abraham Mine) has delivered native arsenic with fluorite and baryte and silver minerals (typically proustite and silver).



Arsenic,
Germany,
Saxony, Erzgebirge, Schlema-Hartenstein District, Schlema

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29.Arsenic & Safflorite, 3.5cm wide
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30.Arsenic crystals, FOV 5mm
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29.Arsenic & Safflorite, 3.5cm wide
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30.Arsenic crystals, FOV 5mm
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29.Arsenic & Safflorite, 3.5cm wide
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30.Arsenic crystals, FOV 5mm
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31.Arsenic & Proustite, 6cm wide
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31.Arsenic & Proustite, 6cm wide
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31.Arsenic & Proustite, 6cm wide

At Schlema massive arsenic and botryoidal aggregates are fairly common. Calcite, Löllingite, silver minerals (proustite, xanthoconite, native silver) are common associates. Native silver in dendritic aggregates up to 20 cm (!) within massive arsenic is quite common there, as well at Pöhla Uranium mine, Luchsbach Valley, Pöhla, Saxony. The best finds occurred just before and after the end of the German Democratic Republic (DDR) in 1990 (German Reunion 3.10.1990, but the revolution in eastern Germany occurred in Nov. 1989). The finds were in 1990 and 91, when the mines were closed. At Schlema trigonal xls up to several mm (I've seen one up to 1 cm) have been found.


Another typical locality in Saxony is Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirge. Most of the arsenic there occurred at Frohnau, typical localities are Galiläische Wirtschaft Mine and Frisch Glück Mine. Botryoidal arsenic, often with a intense layering (in Germany called "Scherbenkobalt" are common, either alone (old pieces, often with arsenolite), or associated with proustite and cobalt arsenides (Safflorite).


The Arsenic specimen in photo (#30) is probably Arsenic, however, it may be an example of a pseudomorph after Arsenolamprite, the orthorhombic allotrope of Arsenic. The xls look prismatic and this is indicative. If they are long trigonal rhombohedra then they formed as Arsenic. However if they have a rectangular cross section, then they formed as Arsenolamprite and later pseudomorphed to Arsenic. I can't tell from the photo. Perhaps Thomas could comment.



Arsenic,
Germany,
Saxony, Erzgebirge, Schneeberg District

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32.Arsenic ~10cm wide
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33.Arsenic, 9cm wide
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32.Arsenic ~10cm wide
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33.Arsenic, 9cm wide
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32.Arsenic ~10cm wide
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33.Arsenic, 9cm wide
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34.Arsenic & Calcite xls. 7cm wide
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34.Arsenic & Calcite xls. 7cm wide
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34.Arsenic & Calcite xls. 7cm wide

Schneeberg is a classic locality, most samples today are from the Uranium mines northeast of Schneeberg, around the town of Schlema.


Arsenic,
Greece,
Attikí (Attica; Attika) Prefecture, Lavrion (Laurion; Laurium) District, Lavrion District Mines, Plaka Mines, Plaka, Plaka Mine No. 80

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35.Arsenic, Arseniosiderite, Galena 4.5cm
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35.Arsenic, Arseniosiderite, Galena 4.5cm
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35.Arsenic, Arseniosiderite, Galena 4.5cm



Arsenic,
Italy,
Lombardy, Sondrio Province, Sondalo, Stabiello Alp

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36.Arsenic, 2cm wide
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36.Arsenic, 2cm wide
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36.Arsenic, 2cm wide



Arsenic,
Italy,
Piedmont, Torino Province, Canavese District, Léssolo, Cálea, Brosso Mine

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37.Arsenic in Calcite, 6.5cm wide
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38.Arsenic 6.5cm wide
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37.Arsenic in Calcite, 6.5cm wide
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38.Arsenic 6.5cm wide
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37.Arsenic in Calcite, 6.5cm wide
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38.Arsenic 6.5cm wide



Arsenic,
Japan,
Honshu Island, Chubu Region, Fukui Prefecture, Akadani mine (Akatani mine)

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39.Arsenic, 1.2cm wide
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40.Arsenic ~1cm
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39.Arsenic, 1.2cm wide
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40.Arsenic ~1cm
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39.Arsenic, 1.2cm wide
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40.Arsenic ~1cm
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41.Arsenic, 1.8cm tall
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42.Arsenic, 1.8cm wide
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41.Arsenic, 1.8cm tall
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42.Arsenic, 1.8cm wide
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41.Arsenic, 1.8cm tall
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42.Arsenic, 1.8cm wide
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43.Arsenic "xl balls" about 1.5cm wide
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43.Arsenic "xl balls" about 1.5cm wide
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43.Arsenic "xl balls" about 1.5cm wide

“Here aggregates of arsenic crystals occur together with quartz and a small amount of stibnite and realgar in clay derived from hydrothermal alteration of rhyolite. They occur in the form of globular masses or concentric radial aggregates of rhombohedra, whose polar edges alone are visible projected on the surface. Thus the aggregates look like “confetti” with diameters of 0.7 to 2 cm. Rarely aggregates of cubic form, with faces depressed at the centers are found, the external morphology of which is inferred to be caused by sub-parallel growth of rhombohedral crystals. Also rarely single crystals of rhombohedral habit of 1 cm in diameter have been reported to occur. The best specimens are exhibited in the Wada Collection. Samples are still collectable after a heavy rain washes the outcrop and exposes fresh surface.”1 The crystals occur in little balls and are not very sharp, but they are interesting. Sometimes ball like aggregates of crystals occur in matrix, but I have only seen pictures of these. When available you should be able to get one of the little balls for less than $100. If you aspire to one like the one pictured it would probably cost more than $300.
1. Introduction to Japanese Minerals, Organizing Committee IMA-IAGOD Meetings, Geological Survey of Japan 1970, p141.


The word "confetti" (=chopped up paper?) in the description of the crystallized balls from Japan was actually an error for "confitte" - a type of candy composed of sharply crystallized sugar balls which, at least in shape, they do somewhat resemble. And, as usual in Asian cultures, the people who own the largest ones keep modestly quiet about them, so the max "2cm" size given in the book you quoted is certainly too low. I have a 2.5cm one myself, and there must be quite a few larger ones than that.



Arsenic,
Malaysia,
Borneo Island, Sarawak, Kuching, Bau, Kusa Mine

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44.Arsenic in matrix ~5cm wide
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45.Arsenic, 8cm wide
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44.Arsenic in matrix ~5cm wide
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45.Arsenic, 8cm wide
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44.Arsenic in matrix ~5cm wide
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45.Arsenic, 8cm wide



Arsenic,
New Zealand,
Coromandel

Usually collectors do not think of New Zealand when they think of localities for good arsenic specimens. However, fine arsenic specimens have been produced at three of the mines at Coromandel. Royal Oak mine. A “specimen, 1x2x2 inches, consists of leafy gold crystals up to ¼ inch lying on and between botryoidal crusts of arsenic.”1 From the Kapanga mine at Coromandel “…a very fine piece of native arsenic…measuring 3x4x2 inches. The arsenic occurs in a dark gray, micorcrystalline, botryoidal, banded crusts over one inch thick…”2 The above two specimens are on display at the Auckland War Memorial Museum. At the Coromandel School of Mines Museum “a single botryoidal crust of native arsenic, 3x3x2 inches from Tokatea Hill in the Coromandel area.”3
1. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 1, 1970, p113. - 2. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 1, 1970, p101. - 3. Mineralogical Record, Vol. 1, 1970, p113.

It would be nice to have pictures of these.


Arsenic,
Peru,
Ancash Department, Pallasca Province, Pasto Bueno District, Huayllapon Mine

Botryoidal specimens with clear prismatic quartz crystals growing out of them. There were not many of these. Perhaps less than 20 pieces were saved. A good specimen of this type is on display in the Los Angeles County Museum of Natural History. It is about 8x13 cm and has sharp quartz crystals, partially clear to about 5 cm. They paid about $500 for the specimen in the 1990s. Some of the prismatic red-black hübnerites from this locality have little one to 2 mm balls of arsenic growing on them.



Arsenic,
Romania,
Maramures Co., Baia Sprie (Felsöbánya), Baia Sprie mine (Felsöbánya mine)

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46.Arsenic & Realgar, 9cm wide
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47.Arsenic & Realgar on Quartz 12cm wide
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46.Arsenic & Realgar, 9cm wide
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47.Arsenic & Realgar on Quartz 12cm wide
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46.Arsenic & Realgar, 9cm wide
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47.Arsenic & Realgar on Quartz 12cm wide



Arsenic,
Romania,
Maramures Co., Baiut

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48.Arsenic, 9.6cm wide
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48.Arsenic, 9.6cm wide
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48.Arsenic, 9.6cm wide



Arsenic,
Romania,
Maramures Co., Cavnic (Kapnic; Kapnik), Roata Mine

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49.Arsenic & Realgar, 7.2cm
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50.Arsenic, 8.5cm
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49.Arsenic & Realgar, 7.2cm
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50.Arsenic, 8.5cm
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49.Arsenic & Realgar, 7.2cm
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50.Arsenic, 8.5cm



Arsenic,
Sweden,
Lappland, Malå, Storliden mine

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51.Arsenic, 6cm wide
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52.Arsenic in Calcite 9cm wide
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51.Arsenic, 6cm wide
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52.Arsenic in Calcite 9cm wide
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51.Arsenic, 6cm wide
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52.Arsenic in Calcite 9cm wide
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53.Arsenic in Calcite, 5cm tall
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53.Arsenic in Calcite, 5cm tall
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53.Arsenic in Calcite, 5cm tall



Arsenic,
Switzerland,
Wallis (Valais), Binn Valley, Im Feld (Imfeld; Feld; Fäld), Lengenbach Quarry

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54.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 5mm
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55.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 2mm
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54.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 5mm
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55.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 2mm
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54.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 5mm
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55.Arsenic & Pyrite, FOV 2mm



Arsenic,
Russia,
Eastern-Siberian Region, Taymyrskiy Autonomous Okrug, Taimyr Peninsula, Putoran Plateau, Talnakh Cu-Ni Deposit, Noril'sk, Komsomol'sky Mine

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Arsenic & Calcite, 7cm wide
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Arsenic & Calcite, 7cm wide
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Arsenic & Calcite, 7cm wide



Arsenic,
Russia,
Eastern-Siberian Region, Transbaikalia (Zabaykalye), Chitinskaya Oblast', Krasnyi Chikoy, Krasnochikoyskoe deposit

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Arsenic in Calcite vein 11cm wide
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Arsenic & Calcite 9cm wide
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Arsenic in Calcite vein 11cm wide
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Arsenic & Calcite 9cm wide
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Arsenic in Calcite vein 11cm wide
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Arsenic & Calcite 9cm wide

The Krasnochikoiskoe deposit (Krasnochikoiskii priisk) was mined for placer gold from open pits. Native arsenic was found occasionally but is was a curiosity and had no economic value. It formed in three to four cm. masses in calcite veinlets, some of them several meters long. The Gold/Pyrite mineralization was not related to the Arsenic. The native Arsenic appeared to be found in the less pyritized rocks. It appears that the locality is now inactive. All the Arsenic specimens that I know about were collected in 1960s & 70s.
Abundant smaller specimens of Arsenic (with minor admixture of stibarsen) are found in the Bor mine in Dalnegorsk.



Arsenic,
United Kingdom,
England, Cornwall, Camborne - Redruth - St Day District, Carn Brea area, Tuckingmill, Dolcoath Mine

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56.Arsenic, 7cm wide
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56.Arsenic, 7cm wide


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25th May 2009 12:44 UTCRock Currier Expert

Yes, both those deserve a place in the article when it is written.

25th May 2009 16:56 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


In Saxony:


Schneeberg is a classic locality, most samples today are from the Uranium mines northeast of Schneeberg, around the town of Schlema. There massive arsenic and botryoidal aggregates are quite common. Calcite, Löllingite, silver minerals (proustite, xanthoconite, native silver) are common associates. Native silver in dendritic aggregates up to 20 cm (!) within massive arsenic is quite common there, as well at Pöhla Uranium mine, Luchsbach Valley, Pöhla, Saxony. The best findings occurred short before and after the end of the German Democratic Republic in 1990 (German Reunion 3.10.1990, but the revolution in eastern Germany occurred in Nov. 1989). The findings were in 1990 and 91, when the mines were closed. At Schlema trigonal xls up to several mm (I've seen one up to 1 cm) have been found.


Another typical locality in Saxony is Annaberg-Buchholz, Erzgebirge. Most of the arsenic there occurred at Frohnau, typical localities are Galiläische Wirtschaft Mine and Frisch Glück Mine. Botryoidal arsenic, often with a intense layering (in Germany called "Scherbenkobalt") are common, either alone (old pieces, often with arsenolite), or associated with proustite and cobalt arsenides (Safflorite).


Marienberg (especially the Amandus Flacher Vein at the Vater Abraham Mine) has delivered native arsenic with fluorite and baryte and silver minerals (typically proustite and silver).


Lower Saxony:

St. Andreasberg, Harz Mts.

Botryoidal to ball-shaped aggregates of native arsenic together with calcite. Often pyrargyrite xls are grown on the balls.


Black Forest:

In the Black Forest native arsenic is quite rare at most localities, due to the lack of bigger veins of the Bismuth-Silver-Nickel-Cobalt-Uranium-Formation (most arsenic localities in Saxony). And at Wittichen, where this formation is frequent, arsenic is only very rare. There most arsenic is either precipitated as cobalt arsenides and secondary arsenates (mixite, arseniosiderite, erythrite, atelestite, heinrichite, zeunerite etc.)


At Clara Mine only small inclusions have been found, whereas at Michael Mine, Weiler, Reichenbach, Lahr, Black Forest small aggregates of arsenic and grey inclusions in chert and baryte are quite common. It is a uncommon mineralization, consisting of arsenic, galena and sphalerite, together with realgar.


The biggest aggregates stem from the southern Black Forest: At Wieden (Tannenboden and Anton Mines), Gottesehre Mine, St. Blasien and Münstertal (Giftgrube and Schindler Vein (Teufelsgrund Mine)), native arsenic has been found as massive aggregates and botryoidal crusts. Also layered ball-shaped aggregates or rounded crusts are common. At Wieden and Gottesehre Mine (both fluorite veins with baryte, sphalerite and galena) only local nests (one at Gottesehre Mine, two at Wieden) occurred, bearing native arsenic, baryte, calcite, proustite xls, some other silver minerals (silver, at Wieden silver sulphides like xanthoconite, argentopyrite, acanthite etc.), kaolinite, schultenite.


At Münstertal arsenic is mostly restricted to the Schindler Vein, especially Giftgrube and Teufelsgrund Mines. Arsenic there is associated with dolomite (often ferroan, often called ankerite), Siderite, Fluorite, as well as Galena.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

25th May 2009 19:49 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

I suppose sticking Arsenolamprite in here is a little like co listing diamond and graphite. However Arsenlamprite is unstable and reverts to Arsenic. There are prismatic Arsenic xls thar are pseudos after Arsenolamprite. I'll check the photos. Sometime in the last decafde or so I saw one offered on the net. It was a large cabinet specimen for a grand or so and was not recognized by the vendor as a pseudo. I can't remember the locality but it was old European.


Ste Marie aux Mines produced good xls balls of rhombs like the Japanese material but in matrix. There is a picture in the ROM gallery and I should have one somwhere


At Alder Island it occured as large reniform masses, no xls.


The Samson Mine, Andreasberg produced reniform masses with Antimony and Stibarsen. On a fresh surface Arsenic is bright metallic, quickly tarnishing black. Antimony remains a bright tin white. Above 300 C Arsenic and antimony form a complete solutiuon series, but below that Stibarsen (AsSb) precipitates out. The stibarsen like the antimony is tin white. So when Antomony predominates you get tin white with tin white and you don't see the stibarsen. But when Arsenic dominates, you get attractive black arsenic with white stibarsen. Quite alot of this material, often with a polished face came out in the 60's.

26th May 2009 00:49 UTCKarl Volkman Expert

Not sure what the cut off for localities is but here is an interesting occurrence of (micro)crystals in chalcedony from Trent Oregon

http://www.mindat.org/loc.php?loc=158667

26th May 2009 04:54 UTCRock Currier Expert

Karl,

Do they occur in fine micro crystals? Are there any pictures available? What is the geology of the locality? Are these free growing on the chalcedony?

2nd Jun 2009 14:33 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi Rock and all,


You are right Peter about Arsenic from Sainte Marie-aux-Mines.

Therefore I wrote a little article on the subject.

I will also try to include the images directly to the article. I hope it works.


Here it is :


Arsenic, Sainte Marie-aux-Mines.


In the Saint-Guillaume vein, the Arsenic is common in small masses reaching several hundred gram and especially in the Glück-Auf mine.

But, in the Saint-Jacques vein, huge quantities of this mineral where found and extracted there from 1936 until 1940. The Gabe Gottes mine is probably the only mine who was ever exploited essentially for the Arsenic.

During reexplorations of the mine in the 1980’s, several hundred kilogram of Arsenic where found, including blocs weighting more than 30 kg.

Nearly all the museums in the world possess at least 1 specimen of Arsenic from the Gabe Gottes mine ( who can be visited in the summer months since 2001 )

From the observation of the many specimens, 3 types can be described.


1 ) Arsenic in concretions and amorphous masses.


This is the most common type and was encountered in nearly all the veins of the Neuenberg district.

Round masses, rarely with smooth surfaces caused by little crystals on the surface, can reach 20 cm in diameter. On the side, one can often see concentric growth with variations in the size of the crystals composing each layer. One can observe Arsenic in microscopic grains and toward the outside of the mass, millimetric crystals. The layers are sometimes separated by small veins of Skutterudite, Rammelsbergite, Lautite and sometimes by native Bismuth. It is in this type of Arsenic that the worlds best Lautite specimens where found, crystals reaching more than 3 cm.







2 ) Bacillary Arsenic.


This is perhaps the strangest type of Arsenic found thru the district and shows 1 to 3 cm long and 1 to 5 mm thick Arsenic embedded in Calcite. According to Lacroix, this type, only known from Sainte Marie-aux-Mines, could be a kind of association like Quartz-Feldspar in graphic pegmatite. On polished section, one can see that the Calcite, who formed like lathlike structures, is composed by micro crystals. The gaps between the Calcite has been filled up with microcrystalline Arsenic. By this procedure, a partial replacement of the Calcite has taken place.





3 ) Arsenic in monocrystals.


A few crystals where found, after dissolution of the matrix, reaching 2 cm. The crystals are very rich with terminal faces, but due to the instant oxidation of the surface of the crystals, no measurements could be made. The crystals seems to have a different form than the few known natural and artificial crystals. They show a pronounced prism terminated by 4 or 6 faces. Some crystals are naturally bent like some Stibnite crystals, sometimes in an angle reaching 40°.

Smaller crystals exists and cluster often together to form stalactites or little round crystal masses.


Ref : Minéralogie des filons du Neuenberg à Sainte Marie-aux-Mines par Hubert Bari, 1982.


For the moment, it is all the information I have.

I keep you informed if I have news.


Thanks.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

2nd Jun 2009 14:36 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Apparently, it did'nt work.

Where was I wrong ?


Paul.

2nd Jun 2009 14:46 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

You just need the photo page number, not the entire link.

2nd Jun 2009 14:48 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi David,


That's probably the error I made.


I'll give it a try again.

Can you delete the previous message ?


Thank you in advanc and take are.


Paul.

2nd Jun 2009 14:52 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi David, Sorry, I did'nt look further than my nose is long. I feel great movement in the force.

You did it allready, fantastic.


Thank you very much.


Take care and warmest regards.


Paul.

4th Jun 2009 09:29 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi,


I am following the Arsenolamprite tread too and at the Glasberg Quarry, a few nice native Arsenics where found too.


Look at this : http://www.mindat.org/photo-181788.html


Probably not the best one found, but the best one I saw since years.


If somebody write an article on the quarry, this could be included in also in the Arsenic article as well.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

4th Jun 2009 09:40 UTCRock Currier Expert

There has been a lot of good stuff posted here about arsenic. and if someone does not soon step up to the plate and write the article, Ill take a whack at it. Any and all additional information would be appreciated.

4th Jun 2009 09:46 UTCKarl Volkman Expert

Hi Rock,


I reality Rudy Tschernich is the better person to ask about the occurrence as he and Don Howard are the ones who did the work p on the material last year. The material is fine microcrystals in the chalcedony and are accompanied by realgar, pararealgar, and orpiment.


The material was chalcedony seams in weathered clay which was exposed in railroad cuts. The deposits were small, worked in the 1950s, and are no longer producing. The arsenic is fine crystaline microspheres


Here are my two poor photo I uploaded into the Trent gallery:

4th Jun 2009 09:53 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi Rock,


Some time ago, there was a topic about the Sarabau mine.

Mr. Seroka wrote about fine Arsenic specimens.

I found the topic for you.

Here it is : http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,15,63640,63775#msg-63775


Surprisingly, Arsenic is not (yet) in the mineral gallery.


I hope this helps.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

4th Jun 2009 18:26 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi Rock,


I phorograped a piece like I discribed in my Ste Marie-aux-Mines article.


Here it is : http://www.mindat.org/photo-233790.html


How can I add this pic or modifiate the article I wrote ?


Thank you in advance.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

4th Jun 2009 18:34 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

On the message you should see an "edit" link on the far right hand side on the bottom of that message. (Guess what you have to click)

4th Jun 2009 18:49 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Hi David,


Thank you very much.


As you would imagine, concerning PC programming, I am ( moron)³.


But I have an advantage, once I know, I know it for ever.


Take care and best regards.


Paul.

11th Jun 2009 09:50 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

Rock, The word "confetti" (=chopped up paper?) in the description of the crystallized balls from Japan was actually an error for "confitte" - a type of candy composed of sharply crystallized sugar balls which, at least in shape, they do somewhat resemble. And, as usual in Asian cultures, the people who own the largest ones keep modestly quiet about them, so the max "2cm" size given in the book you quoted is certainly too low. I have a 2.5cm one myself, and there must be quite a few larger ones than that.

11th Jul 2009 14:53 UTCRock Currier Expert

The first draft of the Best Minerals arsenic article is finished. Thanks to all who contributed to making this article better and especially to Paul De Bondt for his excellent article on the French Arsenic specimens. I didn't include the suggested US arsenic locality suggested and my fellow country men will probably riot in the streets and hound me out of mineral shows for the next ten years, but if one of them will supply a good picture of same, Ill relent and include it in the article.

11th Jul 2009 17:55 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager

Rock, what a great piece of work!!! Thank you for putting it together. I think it shows the power of this Wiki procedure.


However, in my previous posting I mentioned that Antimony and Stibarsen remained tin white while Arsenic tarnished black. The photos from Brezovi Hori, Czech Republic show this well. The M Kampf photo (#8) shows the black mamillary Arsenic containing tin white layers of Stibarsen. (Below 300 C Sb is insoluble in As and the Sb sweats out as Stibarsen. Stibarsen is a little greyer than Antimony). The Jakub Jurasec photo (#7) is tin white and shows only Stibarsen or Antimony. Some localities, I don't know if this is one, produce all three minerals. Looking at the back of Jakub's specimen would tell the tale. If it is like M. Kampf's piece, it is stibarsen; but if it is all tin white, then it is either Antimony or Stibarsen and analysis is required. When analysed things like Paradocrasite etc. often show up. It is often worth checking Stibarsen pieces for these rarities, if you like having invisible species in your collection. Perhaps Jakub could comment.


Also Thomas Witzke's Schlema, Germany Arsenic photo (#30) is probably Arsenic. However, it may be an example of a pseudomorph after Arsenolamprite, the orthorhombic allotrope of Arsenic. The xls look prismatic and this is indicative. If they are long trigonal rhombohedra then they formed as Arsenic. However if they have a rectangular cross section, then they formed as Arsenolamprite and later pseudomorphed to Arsenic. I can't tell from the photo. Perhaps Thomas could comment.


Botryoidal Arsenic with Stibarsen and rarities came from the Engineer Mine, Atlin B.C. and grotti Arsenic came from Savona, B.C. I might be able to dig up some pictures. The Engineer material rates with some stuff posted here, but the Savona material, while intersting large lumps, is not the greatest. As a kid I found flecks of Native Arsenic, behind St Joseph's Oratory, on Mount Royal in Montreal. Montreal is a Dana Locality!!!


Edit: I just skimmed the article and looked at the photos when I made my last posting. I now see that you included the stuff on Stibarsen and Arsenolamprite. Thanks for that. When Thomas or Jakub reply I'll be happy to edit in their comments, if appropriate.

11th Jul 2009 18:00 UTCPeter Haas

Great article, Rock.


There is a minor error in the locality string of the Vater Abraham mine: the Marienberg District is an individual mining district in the central Erzgebirge, not a sub-district of the Freiberg district (which is located in the eastern Erzgebirge).

May I also suggest that the mine is not referred to as having "delivered" specimens (otherwise I would have ordered ...)

11th Jul 2009 22:38 UTCRock Currier Expert

Rob, I have numbered the images. Could you edit your recent comments above and stick in the image numbers that you are talking about?, and Ill make suitable changes in the text. I have started to experiment with numbering all the images in an article. It makes it easy to refer to exactly you want to draw attention to. However this works great for short articles with only a few images but the problem is that when you start to get a lot of images like this article, which still has a modest number of images compared to some of the others and even larger ones to come is that if you add or subtract an image then you should go in and change all the image numbers, and of course their references in the text. That on the big image articles can be a big job. Bob, any other images you can scare up for the article would be appreciated.


Peter, as usual, thanks for the corrections.

12th Jul 2009 00:58 UTCMaurizio Dini Expert

Hi guys:


just to add that very good spheres or globular mamellonar Arsenic were found at Alacran Mine (Pampa Larga district), Copiapó, Atacama, Chile.


The I.Domeyko Mineral Museum, at La Serena (Chile), has 1 hand specimen with a 3 cm mammellonar xls perched on relic and massive arsenic.

This is a 1900 aprox sample: more recently, the best chilean Arsenic pieces came from an interesting find around 1990-1999: those samples were often asciated to radial steel-grey sharp bladed Arsenolamprite xls, Calcite, Stibnite, and minor Smithite.


Unfortunately no good foto of Arsenic mammellonar pieces are well represented on Alacran mindat gallery yet.


Maurizio Dini

12th Jul 2009 09:00 UTCRock Currier Expert

Maurizio,

I don't find anything searching for Arsenic/Chile. Can you give me a URL?

13th Jul 2009 17:29 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

Krasnochikoiskoe deposit http://www.mindat.org/loc-207805.html is apparently the main producer of large native arsenic specimens in Russia - http://www.mindat.org/photo-240906.html, http://www.mindat.org/photo-240908.html, http://www.mindat.org/photo-240909.html


Abundant, but more small size arsenic (with minor admixture of stibarsen) specimens come from Bor mine in Dalnegorsk.

17th Jul 2009 18:12 UTCRock Currier Expert

Pavel,

Could you tell us something about the Krasnochikoiskoe deposit? How big to the native arsenic specimens their get? What is the geology? What is the main production of the mine?s? Open pit? Still operating?


I have included the locality and two pictures of Arsenic from the deposit.

17th Jul 2009 18:14 UTCRock Currier Expert

Rob, I have included your remarks about the various arsenic specimens in the article. Thanks so much. If you can eventually find pictures of arsenic specimens from the Engineer mine we will include them.

19th Jul 2009 17:05 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

Dear Rock,

Krasnochikoiskoe deposit (Krasnochikoiskii priisk) was mined for placer gold as usually. Native arsenic was found occasionally and nobody need in it here. It form central parts (3-4 cm thick) of calcite veinlets some meters long.

Host rocks for arsenic/calcite veins are basic meta effusives. Sometimes they are strongly pyritized and this pyrite contain some of gold. So gold placers were formed over these basic rocks. Gold/pyrite mineralisation don't connected with nativie arsenic one. Moreover apparently native arsenic veins located in the less pyritized rocks. Of course gold placers are mined by open pits. As I find in internet they are exhausted and abandoned. All known to me arsenic specimens were collected in 60th-70th.


I'll upload native arsenic photos from Dalnegorsk, Belorechenskoe and Maiskoe deposits as soon I'll find specimens in my boxes.


Kind regards,

Pavel

19th Jul 2009 21:44 UTCRock Currier Expert

Pavel,

Thanks, I have included your comments in the article.

23rd Jul 2009 19:17 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

This is arsenic from Norilsk group deposit - http://www.mindat.org/photo-242701.html

24th Jul 2009 09:05 UTCRock Currier Expert

Pavel,

I have placed the picture in the article. Can you tell us something about the mine and the geology and its history?


You can enter this kind of stuff directly into the articles if you like. Just let me know and Ill come along and if needed clean up the formatting and the English and bother you for more details if necessary. Thats a nice rich looking piece.
 
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